Talk:Sydney Metro Metropolis Stock

Carriage numbers addition?

I've noticed that the carriage numbers' set sequence is different from the Waratahs, as with a Waratah, e.g. D6370 would mean A70. However, e.g 0805 would mean TS set 08. However, I have yet to find any reliable sources proving this which we could add to and clarify in this article. Fork99 (talk) 21:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't actually call these trains TS sets, anyway. I just stylise it as [##], e.g. [01]. Edgar Searle (talk) 08:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Just for any future editors who might read this, for some reason, the article was titled as Sydney Metro Alstom Metropolis TS set, but there are no reliable sources that state that the trains are classified as "TS sets". Fork99 (talk) 20:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Set classification

I think we should really start a serious discussion about what these train sets are actually called (or classified as). The "TS" part initially came from lesser known, less reliable external sources which listed the fleet numbers as all starting with "TS". Naturally it would be assumed that this follows the same pattern as other NSW train fleets (ie. all T sets starting with "T" in their individual set numbers). The "TS" prefix for each the sets has now presumably been corrected within this wikipedia page, with all sets simply being classified with a singular number. Unlike other NSW train fleets, there seems to be little to no technical information available for Sydney Metro's Alstom Metropolis fleet, which really makes this class quite difficult to write about it. I don't think renaming the page to simply "Alstom Metropolis" would work either, given that this is already the name of the page for the entire Metropolis family, and having the same name would only create confusion given the distinct differences and features that are specific only to the Sydney Metro's fleet of Metropolis trains. These trains are obviously a class of their own and a point of distinction has to be made. Other Metropolis fleets all have their own distinct name/classification (ie. Budapest's AM5 & AM4's, Santiago's NS, Singapore's various C-prefixed classes, Paris' MP's etc.) - Democfest (talk) 05:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

One thing that needs to be noted is that the Sydney Metro is operated separately from NSW TrainLink and Sydney Trains, and does not necessarily follow their conventions. I don't think MTS follows the convention of giving trainsets letters for names. If you look at appendix B of the open data technical document for Sydney Trains, you can see all of the letters used for all of the NSW Trainlink/Sydney Trains operated rollingstock, "vehicle_category_id". The open data technical document for Sydney Metro doesn't follow this convention, and just has a property "vehicle_model" which is always "Alstom Metropolis" as there is only currently one type of rollingstock. TS just stands for "train set", e.g. train 22 could be abbreviated to TS22. You won't find any documents referring to "TS set" as that would be an example of RAS syndrome. I don't think that there is currently a distinct classification for these trains currently other than just Sydney Metro Alstom Metropolis, though I guess it's possible that in future they could be referred to by their route, e.g. NW or CSW, to distinguish the first group of trains delivered from the second. Even then I don't think there's a significant enough difference between the two for this to happen as the second batch of trains starts from train 23. BoredCyborg (talk) 08:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

At some point, they'll be a "Sydney Metro Inspiro Stock" page for Sydney Metro Western Sydney Airport trains and something by Alstom, CRRC, Hyundai Rotem or Siemens Mobility for Sydney Metro West, too... Turini2 (talk) 09:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

"AGT is rubber-tyred"

@Edgar Searle AGT is not always rubber-tyred. Geysirhead (talk) 09:12, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

What I meant to say is, AGT actually-- it usually only refers to the rubber-tyred automated people mover systems that you get at airports for example. Sydney Metro is not rubber-tyred. Edgar Searle (talk) 09:34, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

All trains delivered

Hi all, did a rewrite on this article today - does anyone have a better source than this regarding the completed delivery of the trains, as all 45 have been delivered (and tested) - but the infobox still has trains under construction. If there's a source for the second batch of production (2019-20xx) that would be great! Turini2 (talk) 15:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)