Talk:Soltam M-68

Latest comment: 10 years ago by DPdH in topic Sources?

SOLTAM products edit

"Based on the French designed Obusier de 155 mm Modèle 50 howitzer"

The fact is that the "SOLTAM" products, mortars and field guns are lincenced from Finnish Tampella (now patria) products.

and at any rate, the french weapon is a HORWITZER, not a CANNON, like the SOLTAM cannons based on Tampellas.

For more information about how the "SOLTAM" came to be: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soltam but even this lacks lot of information, i guess its somehow considered "sensitive" or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.231.217.247 (talk) 14:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

To add even on "Israeli weapons" site the first picture of "SOLTAM M68"

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/artillery/towed_guns/m-68/M-68.html

Is shown somewhere in backyard of Tampella gun factory in Finland. (The firt black and white photo.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.231.217.247 (talk) 14:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hmm. Not that sensitive anymore (just not on the net). According to the book "From Tampella to Patria", SOLTAM was established in the 50's as a joint venture of the Israeli Solel Boneh Ltd. and Saldad S.A of Luxembourg (a Tampella Subsidiary). Thus the name: SOLTAM (SOLeil Boneh + TAMpella). The purpose was that Salgad (i.e. Tampella) establishes a factory in Israel and transfers it's production know-how, patents, licenses and enoguh personnel. Solel's role was to build the actual factory and handle the paperwork. The first orders were for 45mm and 75mm gun barrels. Also the mortar and 105mm cannon drawings were transferred. During the time, it was very sensitive (thus the front company in luxembourg) and actual transport of material was handled through switzerland. The first full products were the 75mm antitank cannon and the 81, 120 and 160mm mortars. ˝˝˝˝

Surprised to find the term "cylinder head" at the end of the paper, instead of "breech". "Cylinder head" is from the automotive world, not from armament. I guess the error is due to a French-born writer, since in French the same word "culasse" stands for both "cylinder head" and "breech". 85.171.171.118 (talk) 05:51, 24 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Yep. Following an intense search on the Net, using "gun" and "cylinder head" as search terms, I found only links pointing to airsoft guns, which have cylinder heads, right. But not to "true" guns. I suggest to modify this term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamilcar.Barca247 (talkcontribs) 05:47, 26 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sources? edit

It's unclear which information comes from which source, as there are few inline citations, and no comments in the "Talk Page". Can any of the original editors please help? Thanks, DPdH (talk) 09:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply