Talk:Siege of Taiz

Section about the 24 November fighting was repeatedly removed

The section about the 24 November 2015 fighting in the battle was recently removed at least twice (see the history of the article). The reason was not specified. The article now ends with a description of the 16 August 2015 fighting (three months old). 89.173.227.64 (talk) 10:28, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Since there were no edit summaries which would at least briefly describe the reasons for the removal, I added it again. Hopefully this doesn´t get deleted at once without explanation again. --89.173.227.64 (talk) 18:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Do not use PressTV as a source

PressTV is an Iranian news agency. It routinely publishes false information relating on opposing side (president Hadi and Saudi-led Arab Coalition) to the conflict in Yemen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.125.71.34 (talk) 21:56, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 27 May 2018

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Moved. While the present title, "Battle of Taiz", applied well when this article was created, the general agreement below that a rename is needed appears to be in line with progressive changes since then. While "offensive" can mean more than one "battle", this has been fairly ongoing since 2015, so there have been planned offensives (plural) over the period "2015–present". The proposed title then needs only a small tweak to Taiz offensives (2015–present). Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  18:27, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

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Battle of Taiz (2015–present) → Taiz offensive (2015–present) – It is not only a battle in Taiz city. --Panam2014 (talk) 17:16, 27 May 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 03:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. –Ammarpad (talk) 02:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Chilicheese22:--Panam2014 (talk) 17:39, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Applodion and NuclearWizard: --Panam2014 (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with this, but splitting the Mokha offensive from the Taiz offensive would be a constructive change. Nuke (talk) 15:49, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@NuclearWizard: could you explain your proposal ? We should have an article for the battle in Taiz city and another in Taiz governorate or an article for Taiz governorate and another for Mokha ? --Panam2014 (talk) 15:58, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I haven't seen separate articles for those two. I only see one big article with Operation Golden Arrow and the Hudaydah offensive and the battle of Taiz both within it. Nuke (talk) 16:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@NuclearWizard: you think that we should have one article for Taiz and Hudaydah offensives (including Mokha, Taiz city offensives and Golden arrow) under the name Taiz offensive ? --Panam2014 (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Panam2014: Probably not. Two or three articles probably. Maybe the latter could be the "Western Yemen offensive" (or theater, campaign, etc.) to consolidate both offensives in the same area. Nuke (talk) 17:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@NuclearWizard: we should have an article Western Yemen offensive and for the two others ? --Panam2014 (talk) 17:58, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Panam2014: The city/governorate of Taiz should stay in the same article. However, that said, we need more input. Nuke (talk) 18:33, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@NuclearWizard: and we should create an article for Mokha (Golden Arrow) ? For the city/governorate, the title should be Taiz governorate offensive ? And we should also have an article West Yemen offensive ? --Panam2014 (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

• Support Battles of Taiz (2015–present). No enthusiasm for the proposed exactly. There is a need to get words right. There are more or less accepted scales of military engagements, from "war" to "offensive" to "battle" to "skirmish". Whether this long running hostility is composed of battles or offensives, I'm note sure, perhaps both, but I think whichever, it is plural. I suggest Battles of Taiz (2015–present), plural battles. It looks like a long running active series of hostilities, worthy of being called battles, but noting the duration, especially with ceasefires, it is plural not singular. The Battles of Taiz are part of the Yemeni Civil War. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:32, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

• comment': @SmokeyJoe: there are no battle but offensive. Offensive means lots of battles in a big area, not only on the city. And for campaign/conflict? What do you think? --Panam2014 (talk) 02:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Battles. Offensives maybe. I don’t think area is critical to the meaning. Campaign?, I think no, too local and sporadic. Conflict?, no, because it is a major part of the war, conflict means something not quite a war, I think. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:06, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@SmokeyJoe: okay, but we could also create articles about main offensives, no? --Panam2014 (talk) 03:25, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

• I don't have a strong opinion on "offensives" versus "battles". I think you are talking about WP:SPINOUTs from this page. That may be a good idea. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose, no convincing argument given for change Khestwol (talk) 19:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

@Khestwol: it is not a battle around a city. --Panam2014 (talk) 21:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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No active discussion.--SharabSalam (talk) 13:45, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 1 May 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. Directed to Siege of Taiz. (non-admin closure) EggRoll97 ^(talk) 23:13, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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Taiz campaign → Siege of Taiz (2015–present) – I have seen exactly one reliable source describing the fighting in Taiz as the "Taiz campaign". Conversely, the following articles describe it as a "siege":

• Yemen's Truce Has Failed in Taiz
• Yemen: Ending the siege of Taiz is an urgent humanitarian priority
• Taiz, seven years under siege
• Houthi siege of Taiz a 'major' UN worry in Yemen
• Calls grow to end siege of major Yemen city
• Siege of Taiz broken but residents face new dangers under resistance rule
• Houthi attack on besieged Yemeni city of Taiz kills 10 soldiers
• Yemen president vows to open roads in Taiz, achieve peace

And the following sources describe it as a battle, or both a siege and a battle:

• The Endless Battle in Taiz
• The Battlefront of Taiz
• Intense battles erupt between gov't forces, Houthis in Yemen's Taiz, 10 killed
• The battle of Taiz – a revenge war

There are more sources that describe it as a battle, and even more that describe it as a siege, but very few describing it as a campaign or anything like that. It would be appropriate to change the name to the Siege of Taiz or the Battle of Taiz or something like that, as it is clearly the common name after all Presidentofyes12 (talk) 22:44, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Support Siege of Taiz, no disambiguation needed. 〜 Festucalex • talk 09:13, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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