Talk:Settler colonialism

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Buidhe in topic Non-notable book

Liberia edit

Why is Liberia omitted from this article? It should be classified as a settler colonial state akin to Israel and Taiwan. DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 08:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Source? (t · c) buidhe 15:54, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2006/03/our-liberian-legacy/304821/ DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 19:42, 9 January 2024
As far as I can tell, that article doesn't mention settler colonialism. (t · c) buidhe 23:30, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article described Liberia as an American colony formed by the American Colonization Society to repatriate African-Americans. DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 04:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
This article is about the concept of settler colonialism. In order to merit inclusion in this article, at a minimum the source must be about settler colonialism. This source is not, so it does not meet the criteria. See WP:NOR. (btw, I disagree with the "by country" format, because I don't think it's helpful for conveying information and distracts from the key aspects of the topic). (t · c) buidhe 05:21, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
The fact that Liberia was a colony settled by African-Americans actually proves my point of the American Colonization Society being a settler colonial project. Have a look at the Colony of Liberia article. DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 06:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 February 2024 edit

Opening paragraph change "per-existing population of a region" to pre-existing population of a region" Steveqj (talk) 13:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 14:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why is this topic confined to post-15th century examples edit

The definition of "settler colonialism" given in the article seems to apply equally well to colonialism as practiced by empires in previous eras, such as the Phoenician?Carthaginian quasi-empire, the empire of Alexander and his generals, the Roman empire, the Mongol empire, etc. Should not these also be included in the article? K.a.carroll (talk) 20:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

K.a.carroll you're right that the article needs a lot of work. However, you will have to look at the books about settler colonialism to find out what they cover and emphasize. (t · c) buidhe 02:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Some people are starting to ask questions but in general I don't think you'll find this terms applied to non-European conquests involving population movements and we have to follow reliable sources. Alaexis¿question? 12:04, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
But you will find it applied to older European conquests involving population movements, such as Greek settler colonialism in Sicily. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
You're right. Alaexis¿question? 22:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Non-notable book edit

User:Buidhe reverted my latest edit and argues that Empire of the People: Settler Colonialism and the Foundations of Modern Democratic Thought is a notable book and should be redlinked.

It doesn't seem like this book meets the GNG, and shouldn't be redlinked because it's not notable. I would just revert, but since this article has 1RR, I thought I would bring these here. Peter L Griffin (talk) 00:09, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Same also appears to go for Settler Capitalism by Donald Denoon. Peter L Griffin (talk) 00:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Did you do a quick Google Scholar search? Empire of the People has several reviews, and is a straightforward WP:NBOOK pass [1]
Same with Settler Capitalism, which was still getting reviewed decades after being published! [2] (t · c) buidhe 01:03, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply