Talk:Salad Olivier

Article name

Is "Russian salad" the common name for this salad in English? Is there even a common name in English? i.e., is this even a commonly known dish in the English speaking world? If it's not commonly known, let's not hamfistedly force the topic under "Russian salad"; I would propose using Salad Olivier.

Virtually all speakers of European languages whom I know universally refer to this salad as "Russian salad", not "Olivier salad". I think that "Russian salad" is a very adequate way of naming the article, as the name is well known outside of Russia, though inside Russia, it's always referred to as "Olivier salad" ("Салат Оливье"). --Ericdn (talk) 11:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

"Russian salad" may or may not be a layman's term for "salad Olivier," but professional chefs apply it to a totally different salad, which is called винегрет in Russian. Wikipedia should not use colloquial misnomers because it is supposed to educate readers. I suggest changing the article's title. Sclerolith (talk) 04:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Escoffier called it "Russian Salad". in 'Guide Culinaire'. Just sayin'. 124.168.181.224 (talk) 00:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Photo

Also, the picture of the salad in the article is mostly lettuce. I don't think this would be a typical Salad Olivier. Ufwuct (talk) 22:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, what's up with that photo? That's not Salade Olivier, or at least it's a far cry from "typical." Too bad I just finished eating it, otherwise I'd take a picture. Sovietbot (talk) 22:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, keep that in mind the next time you're near one with a camera. Meanwhile, I have changed the caption a bit. --Illythr (talk) 19:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Timeframe

"At the turn of the 19th century, one of Olivier's sous-chefs, Ivan Ivanov, attempted to steal the recipe." Shouldn't it be the turn of the 20th century, if it was in fact stolen in the late 1800's? As it is written, to me, means late 1700s or early 1800s, which doesn't match with the dates provided in the article. Mcrabb23 (talk) 04:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Lucien Olivier died in 1883. Difficult for Ivan Ivanov to steal his recipe at the turn of the 20th century (which implies 1898-1901 timeframe) Ruin101 (talk) 20:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Spanish' Russian Salad

The ingredients of the so-called "russian salad" as made in spain are tuna, diced boiled potatos, peas, Capsicum annuum, bean stripes (where the bean itself is stored), carrots, boiled eggs and sometimes corn, all with lot of mayonnaise. The similarity between this recipe and any of the ones described in this articles is null and as so, that recipe must have it's own article or at least, section. Claunia (talk) 04:39, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Olivieh

Is this the same thing as the "olivieh" one can get at Mediterranian restaurants? Olivieh has no page on Wikipedia at all. Not even a redirect. None of the images on this page match what I just ate though. 146.6.205.153 (talk) 17:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)