Talk:Ruslan Abishov

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. Note that Azerbaijan uses a Latin alphabet. These days we usually spell these players using their full national alphabet so long as they still play in their original country and haven't been 'internationalized' by being covered extensively in the newspapers of another country, where their name might be spelled differently. Arabic is a different case because there is no standard transliteration of an Arabic personal name into a Latin alphabet. See WP:DIACRITICS for more backgound. EdJohnston (talk) 21:51, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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Ruslan Abishov → Ruslan Abışov – The original Azerbaijani spelling. I don't see why my move was reverted back in 2012 and neither do I see any reliable sources where he is mentioned as Abishov. The Other Saluton (talk) 09:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

• Support given that Azerbaijani alphabet is since 1991 now Latin no reason to treat differently from Turkish. But what about Rasim Abishov? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:44, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I browsed for a while and I can see lots and lots of Azerbaijani footballers should be moved. This should probably be discussed on a higher level than here. Rasim's surname is just plain incorrect, it's Abuşev ("properly transcribed" as Abushev). The Other Saluton (talk) 04:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, I would support that, native English speaking users are able to cope with Turkish fonts, and the only Google Books source in English which has either Abishov/Abışov, Who is Who in Azerbaijan has 2001 Abışov. Those who speak English as a second language (such as the editor below) may indeed find en.wp's use of full fonts more difficult, but it is part of English these days, and of sources. It would be strange to make Azerbaijani the one exception. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:04, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

It seems your reply is addressed to Yacatisma below. The Other Saluton (talk) 09:17, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose. English speaking users will not going to understand that letters and his surname goes as "Abışov" in Azerbaijani language --Yacatisma (talk) 14:46, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Then why are all the other footballers named according to the original spelling? Hakan Şükür, Karel Poborský, Matthew Špiranović? I can't remember a single exception. By the way, you're obviously not a native English speaker, despite what you say on your talk page. The Other Saluton (talk) 09:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment. Keep your personal bias to yourself. There are a lot of arabic players, do u write their name in arabic as well? Your point is poor and need more strong argument to support.--Yacatisma (talk) 07:23, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

We are obviously speaking about languages based on the Latin alphabet, other scripts are irrelevant here. Whether you are a native speaker or not has nothing to do with "my personal bias" because you are talking about which letters English speakers "will going to understand". The Other Saluton (talk) 06:43, 29 June 2014 (UTC)