Talk:Robyn Stewart

Latest comment: 4 years ago by FDW777 in topic "Ireland"

"Ireland"

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is "Cyling Ireland" and includes both, Ireland and Northern Ireland. --Nicola (talk) 21:02, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

representing Ireland at international competitions is accurate if he she competes on an all-Ireland basis, which appears to be the case. representing Ireland or Northern Ireland was an unreferenced change made by Planter11, if there is evidence he she has specifically competed for Northern Ireland I am happy for my edit to be reverted. See for example Michael Conlan (boxer) as someone who has represented both Ireland and Northern Ireland in international competition. FDW777 (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
This is cycling, not boxing - the structures are different. Bwy: It is a "she". --Nicola (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oops! Fixed. Cycling Ireland says it's an all-Ireland basis. British Cycling#Regional bodies says Cycling in Northern Ireland is organised under Cycling Ulster, part of the all-Ireland governing body Cycling Ireland. Until 2006, a rival governing body existed, the Northern Ireland Cycling Federation. So, in the absence of evidence Robyn has represented Northern Ireland in international competition, my edit would appear to be correct? And I'n aware it's a different structure, I'm just using Conlan as an example of someone who has competed for both Ireland and Northern Ireland. FDW777 (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Wait, I see we are potentially at cross purposes here. representing Ireland or Northern Ireland is incorrect, Robyn represents Ireland, and the team is composed of people from across Ireland. You wouldn't say someone from British Cycling was representing England, Scotland or Wales would you? FDW777 (talk) 21:46, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Well, you see, I am from Germany, my main purpose is trackcycling - and I made the photo aswell. It took some time for me to understand the structure. There is British Ccling including Welsh and Scottish Cycling, Jersey, Isle of Man and Gibraltar, but there as no "English" cycling, heaven knows why [1]. And Irish cycling stands for all Ireland. At the Olympics it is different, because the NOC represent Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This is my state of information. --Nicola (talk) 22:02, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
That's the point I'm trying to make. If you race for Cycling Ireland's national team, you represent Ireland. You don't represent "Ireland or Northern Ireland". If you race for British Cycling's national team, you represent Great Britain. You don't represent "England, Scotland or Wales". FDW777 (talk) 22:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yes, you are right. It is in fact "all Ireland". --Nicola (talk) 22:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Actually my Michael Conlan example is very appropriate I have just discovered. The Commonwealth Games are organised on a totally different basis, and like Conlan at the 2014 Commonwealth Games, Roybn competed at the 2018 Commonwealth Games for Northern Ireland, see this. I will add this to the article. FDW777 (talk) 22:23, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply