Talk:Hillula of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai

Name

This article really needs a better name. I can't suggest one offhand, but this is definitely not a term used. Maybe more importantly, its odd that this has its own wiki article, but not the tomb itself. | MK17b | (talk) 19:19, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm sure the current name is nothing more than Google Translate result. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 19:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Right on the mark :). Any suggestions on changing? Any thoughts on lack of article about the tomb itself. Seems the compound could do with an article, and this could be a subsection of that. | MK17b | (talk) 19:51, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@Triggerhippie4 what do you think about moving it to a subsection of this new page I created for the Tomb of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai? | MK17b | (talk) 21:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

In the spirit of Wikipedia:Be bold boldness, gonna do that move now. | MK17b | (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@Mk17b: I think both articles can be left separately. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 21:34, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm gonna start a discussion below. I think the page is a bit excessive, especially as the terminology used is quite foreign and between articles on Lag BaOmer and the Tomb, not sure I see space for this article.| MK17b | (talk) 21:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

• Title of this article should be changed to: "Celebration of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai." The word "revelry" is tantamount to something being unruly, or disorderly conduct, when in fact, most years went by without incident.Davidbena (talk) 20:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
• I would suggest Hillula of Shimon bar Yochai, to correspond with the existing article Hiloula of Rabbi Haim Pinto. Another possibility would be Pilgrimage to Meron.--Pharos (talk) 11:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

That, too, seems satisfactory.Davidbena (talk) 12:08, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I vote for Hillula of Shimon bar Yochai and vote against Pilgrimage to Meron. Hillula is better than celebration because it is an accepted term (Yom Hillula) while also being more specific. Ar2332 (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

• I would only note that the celebration/hillula (which is just celebration in Hassidic talk) already has a section in the new Tomb page. If editors think a separate article is warranted (probably due to the recently acquired notoriety, due to the sad news), then naming either celebration or hillula would be OK, in my view. Thank you, warshy ^(¥¥) 15:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
•  Done Renamed to "Hillula of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai". --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 15:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Hillula of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Hillula of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "speaking":

• From Tomb of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai: Lebovits, Moishe Dovid. "Lag BaOmer". Halachically Speaking. p. 6. Retrieved 27 April 2010.
• From Lag BaOmer: Lebovits, Moishe Dovid. "Lag BaOmer" (PDF). Halachically Speaking. p. 6. Archived from the original (PDF) on May 12, 2013. Retrieved 27 April 2010.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 13:52, 10 May 2021 (UTC)