Talk:Rape of Persephone

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved to Rape of Persephone. Uncontested. Virtually all Google Books hits are for the poem of Claudius Claudianus. The myth is referred to by the Greek name. Favonian (talk) 19:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

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Rape of Proserpine → Rape of Persephone – Persephone is the common spelling of the Greek myth. The alternative spelling is Romanized. StevePrutz (talk) 19:23, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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Purpose of this article

I've removed material added in May 2011; it was copied and pasted here minus citations and credits, from the Persephone article; that article already covers the myth in detail. This article seems to have been created in the first place to deal with or list various artworks, so I doubt very much that it needs more than the bare bones of the myth - which it already has. Or perhaps the page should be moved once again, to "Rape of Proserpina (art)" as a disambiguation page. Haploidavey (talk) 13:47, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 24 August 2015

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The result of the move request was: wrong forum. This is a merge proposal. Please see WP:MERGEINIT for the process to either perform or propose page merging. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 16:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

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Rape of Persephone → Persephone – the Persephone page already covers the myth in great detail. This article currently consists of just a short list of artworks representing the myth, which would be better placed within the overall Persephone page. LegesRomanorum (talk) 10:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

• Here "rape" is ambiguous :: nowadays it always means unauthorized intercourse (or metaphorical derivatives such as "for the rape of Gondor" in "The Lord of the Rings"), but in those old-originated names of classical-period events it often has its now-obsolete use of "abduction", as the Latin meaning of "'rapire". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

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Same character called Pluto and Hades

Why not just pick one name and stick to it instead of talking about them like they were two different people? Example:

Pluto, struck by Cupid's arrow, sees Proserpina playing with her companions and picking flowers, falls in love, seizes her and rushes away - "such is the haste of sudden love"

The nymph Cyane had the courage to oppose Hades, but he opened the earth and drove down to the underworld with the chariot and the struggling bride. Cyane was so heartbroken at her failure that she literally burst into tears and was transformed into the Ciane Fountain.

One sentence calls him Pluto and the next calls him Hades. Dream Focus 19:36, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

This confusing usage was introduced by a change of topic for the article, which has now been reverted (see below). Paul August ☎ 22:00, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Changing the topic of this article

This article is about a theme in western art based on a Greek myth. But recently the article was rewritten to be about the myth itself (a topic which is well covered at Persephone) I've restored the article as it was before this change. While we could have a separate article about the myth itself, this article is not it. Paul August ☎ 11:52, 23 March 2023 (UTC)