Talk:Prahlad Jani

Latest comment: 3 years ago by PaulBetteridge in topic Independent verification

Cleaning edit

This page needs info cleaning — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.130.149.162 (talk) 11:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

God, God-man or Media propelled blind faith? edit

I specifically visited Chunriwali Mataji during my recent trip to India and I must add, with a lot of reverence due to my religious upbringing. Unfortunately, what I saw there was sheer blind faith on display. The media appears to have helped the hermit's claims, which I do not deny may be an ability that the hermit possesses through the ancient sciences of Yoga. It appears to be fairly common in India to interpret such "yogic ability" as an incarnation of God and it does not come as a surprise due to the level of blind faith, coupled with poor education and absence of scientific questioning and most importantly the "fear of god".

With my limited understanding of Vedic principles which form the fundamentals of Hinduism, I was able to make some connections with the claims made by the hermit, but what I observed there did not map to the other aspects of the philosophies. I (and the other visitors with me) did not feel any positive vibrations in the air, which is typically associated with people and places of holy nature. There was no sense of love emanating from the god-man, but he appeared to be anxious and fidgety. A policeman posted there for ensuring safety of the god-man continued unchallenged (by the god-man) for his misbehaviour with and abusive language towards the devotees right in front of the "mataji". There was too much control on movement of devotees and amount of time they were allowed to spend there (even when the number of visitors was very few). But what took the cake was Prahlad Jani aka Mataji joining an argument between us and the policeman for challenging the policeman's abusive behaviour. I have my interpretations of such behaviour of "God", but I will let you decide for yourself.

Add a picture of him edit

Why is there no picture of him on this article? Add one.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=Prahlad%20Jani

BlueBerryWizard (talk) 01:04, 6 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

BlueBerryWizard Wikipedia can only host pictures with copyright permission. This usually means that someone, you perhaps, finds the person, takes their pictures, and donates it to Wikimedia. Photographers own the photos they take and Wikipedia cannot steal them. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:28, 29 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Independent verification edit

I am making no claim about the truth or falseness of Jani's case. However, the article claims "The veracity of Mataji's claims have also never been independently confirmed with all tests being indigenously conducted." This is an ethnocentric, perhaps racist, assertion that undermines the professional integrity and scientific competency of Indian scientists. Independent verification is merely a claim being tested by a disinterested 3rd party, which is what happened in Jani's case. The fact that these scientists are themselves Indian is irrelevant, and, further, there is no evidence that these tests were manipulated or poorly conducted by them. I don't believe there has ever been a case of tests conducted by scientists from a Western nation of claims made by a fellow national dismissed as "indigenously conducted" or the scientific integrity and work of these scientists questioned merely because they and the claimant share a common nationality. However, because these scientists are Indian, or, perhaps more generally, not Western, it is somehow legitimate to question their ability, independence, integrity and work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.153.148 (talk) 16:10, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

I too was struck by the odd "indigenously conducted" phrase. Since it seems to add nothing to the article, which seems to present the "for" and "against" cases reasonably, I have deleted that sentence. It only seems likely to provoke the (understandable) reaction it has above. -- PaulBetteridge (talk) 12:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

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