Talk:Pope

Pope's role as elected monarch

In articles about monarchy, the Vatican is referred to as an elective monarchy. I found that interesting and noteworthy, but noticed it is absent from this article. (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

I propose a minor adjustment to the original text to incorporate the term "elected monarch," emphasizing the Pope's unique role:

"The Pope (Latin: Papa, from Greek: πάππας, romanized: Páppas, lit. 'father'), also known as supreme pontiff (pontifex maximus or summus pontifex), Roman pontiff (Romanus pontifex) or sovereign pontiff, is the bishop of Rome (or historically the patriarch of Rome), head of the worldwide Catholic Church, and has also served as the head of state, sovereign and elected monarch of the Papal States and later the Vatican City State since the eighth century."

Looking forward to your input, and possible improvements to the wording and structure of this addition. (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2023

Pope Anita the 1st

Pentacostal Methodist Nikita the eternal (talk) 00:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Nikita the eternal (talk) 00:03, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 00:12, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Pope Anita the 1st

Pentacostal Methodist Nikita the eternal (talk) 01:09, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

New Eliakim section

The New Eliakim section seems overdone. Firstly, I think it's weird that it's above the section on the "election, death, and resignation" of the pope, given its lower importance. Secondly, the whole section has only one citation not to the Bible. The citation is supposed to substantiate the claim that the Catholic church teaches that the pope is the new Eliakim, but goes to an apologetics blog that isn't run by the church (instead it's Catholic Answers (https://www.catholic.com/about), which is "an independent, lay-run apostolate... [that doesn't] ask for—nor receive—financial support from the Vatican, any diocese or bishops conference, or any other organization that is part of the institutional Catholic Church"). IMO, if it's to persist, it should be moved down the page and revamped with better sourcing. 184.23.20.208 (talk) 18:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Alternatively, maybe the New Eliakim argument should have its own page? 184.23.20.208 (talk) 18:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

I agree. This topological interpretation of Eliakim has come up here and there (e.g., https://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/homilies/2012/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20120629_pallio.html), but it's not something that Church has included in her Catechism or defined in a more formal way. It's given too much prominence here as though it were a major teaching about the papacy. Prosequor (talk) 15:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

I'd like to add that the picture show is not of the steward/chancellor Eliakim, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliakim,_son_of_Abiud Robert.E.Riley (talk) 02:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Leo XI?

According to his article, Pope Leo XI reigned for only 27 days. Is there any reason he has been excluded from the list of shortest-reigning Popes? He appears in 9th place of the list in the Spanish and Simple English versions of this section. El monty (talk) 14:15, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Misty

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