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Talk:Political correctness

Political correctness is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
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DateProcessResult
January 19, 2004Refreshing brilliant proseKept
March 8, 2004Featured article reviewDemoted
May 12, 2004Featured article candidatePromoted
July 14, 2004Featured article reviewDemoted
Current status: Former featured article

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Victoria wood, and other uses for comical effect...Edit

I am presuming that the IP introduced the reference to Victoria Wood on the basis of her song Alternative Tango (which is a song about euphemisms for masturbation after 'wanker' being made out of bounds due to political correctness). While finding a reliable source to reference it is one thing, it must be said that for artists and comedians in particular political correctness is one of their main targets. In particular the whole Alf Garnett / Al Murray situation where they play characters who people identify with in both an unironic and ironic way. We list a few satirical bits in the section but they are a little throwaway and light, and I suspect that there is better out there to represent this content. Koncorde (talk) 12:00, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

It's more a case of PC being an excuse for writing the song, (the supposed banning of a list of abusive terms by the EU) rather than even being a real satire on 'PC'. I agree, the connection to PC is very tenuous and the example exemplifies almost nothing except the talent of V Wood. BTW, for those not from the UK-sphere, 'wanker' is a generic term of abuse for a useless person, as well as its literal meaning - someone who masturbates. Pincrete (talk) 18:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
  • I think that we can't realistically list every time anyone has ever used the term for comical effect, so we have to consider WP:DUE weight for each. This one is (AFAIK) not particularly high-profile and doesn't provide much insight into the topic. Although, that said, we might consider trimming parts or all of that section to begin with. --Aquillion (talk) 22:31, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

A Politically Correct Article about Political Correctness?Edit

The issue is Freedom of Speech, and not anyone's definition of the "disadvantaged." Learner001 (talk) 14:34, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

What "issue"? Is there something about this article that you feel should be different than it is? How can the article be improved? - SummerPhDv2.0 14:53, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Many issues, but let me gather thoughts and respond in depth soon. Thanks and best wishes! Learner001 (talk) 20:48, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Most of the definitional elements of the first para come from dictionaries, so if you think we've got it wrong, you'll have to take it up with Cambridge, Oxford and Websters. The article is about a term and how it has been used. Pincrete (talk) 22:49, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Global Language MonitorEdit

There have been some articles in the news mentioning the GLM and their biennial list of politically correct words and phrases. Their president Paul Payack, made an interesting observation. Rathering than labeling political correctness as good or bad, he said the following: "“We label these words and phrases Politically (in)Correct because of the fierce debate they often stir and incur. People spanning the political spectrum can find the phrases politically ‘correct’ or ‘incorrect’ depending on their particular views”. Here is a link to their 2017 awards: https://www.languagemonitor.com/global-english/harvard-captures-top-politically-incorrect-word-of-the-year-award/

Any thoughts on including a mention of this list? 2602:301:772D:62D0:71D1:78DB:E17F:6673 (talk) 06:51, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

If there are no objections If like to include a brief mention. 2600:1012:B056:40FB:DDC6:F727:535B:DA30 (talk) 22:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
I am not getting any connection to that link. May be temporary, will check again tomorrow. Koncorde (talk) 23:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
This is little more than a short list of terms/title changes that GLM deem to be 'PC'. Pincrete (talk) 10:40, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Great article in the Atlantic.Edit

There is an article in the Atlantic that I heard about on the radio this morning. It seems like a lot of people are talking about this. It's an article about America's strong dislike for PC Culture, while at the same time embracing some PC policies. It's a great read and really sums up current feelings toward PC. Have a look! https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/ 68.252.215.225 (talk) 18:59, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

::This would be good information to add - perhaps under a section entitled "The United Statss and Contemporary PC Culture". If there are no objections I'd like to add a synopsis/mention of article above and agree it's quite relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.216.152.89 (talk) 01:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

One person pretending to be two separate people is a blockable offense. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:26, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Perspective needed here. Americans make up less than 5% of the world's population. There must not be disproportionate coverage of PC in the US. HiLo48 (talk) 05:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
I've blocked the 2nd IP as WP:DUCK and struck their comment. I'll block the first one if this continues. Doug Weller talk 05:36, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
For a variety of reasons, (US-only, straw-poll rather than study, doesn't actually say what 'PC' is - though implicitly it is 'PC language'), the piece adds nothing IMO. Pincrete (talk) 10:38, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
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