Talk:Pine Bowl (game)

Requested move 9 April 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks 21:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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• Pine Bowl (game) → Pine Bowl
• Pine Bowl → Pine Bowl (disambiguation)

– Currently a WP:TWODABS situation with Pine Bowl (stadium) being the other article. That article is an unsourced stub and does not appear to be notable; a hatnote to Saint Francis University should be sufficient. 162 etc. (talk) 16:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose The game has insufficient sources for WP:GNG either, so there does not seem to be an obvious primary topic as of yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

  The article may be poorly written, but there's definitely sources. They're all in Japanese though. 162 etc. (talk) 21:32, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

  Well, right now, none of them are listed in the article. Considering the argument for the move is that the other article isn't notable, this article having no proof of notability either renders the argument moot. Until one is provably notable, the disambiguation should stay that way. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose neither notable. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Comment Pine Bowl (stadium) now at AfD. 162 etc. (talk) 16:30, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

  Even if it gets redirected, it won't change anything about the outcome of this RM. WP:DABMENTION exists. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:24, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

  A topic with its own article is normally primary ahead of a topic which does not. 162 etc. (talk) 21:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

  Maybe, if it's far more prominent. An article with no notability does not count as more prominent. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:37, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

  It would appear to me that no disambiguation would be needed per WP:D2D, but we can revisit this once the AfD concludes. 162 etc. (talk) 21:41, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Requested move of associated dab. Put (disambiguation) instead of "deleted to make way for move" because I haven't seen many speedy deletions of Category:Disambiguation pages containing one non-primary topic. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:32, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

  Relisted so the RM notice is at the dab for at least seven days. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

• Support. The AfD for the stadium closed with a consensus to merge the article into DeGol Field, and so the game is now the primary topic by default. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:07, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support per above comment. Station1 (talk) 06:47, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. The game and the three stadiums appear all quite obscure, the dab page itself gets barely one view each week. There's no primary topic by default: these guidelines apply to topics, not to entire articles. – Uanfala (talk) 20:39, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.