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Did you know... that Paul Joseph Cini, a Canadian skyjacker, thought that he could evade justice by parachuting from the plane before landing?

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 09:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

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~~... that 28-year-old Paul Joseph Cini became Canada's first hijacker of a commercial airliner? Source: ^[1]~~
- ALT1: ... that Paul Joseph Cini, a Canadian skyjacker, thought he could evade justice by parachuting from the plane with the ransom money before landing? Source: ^[1]^[2]
- ALT2: ... that Canadian skyjacker, Paul Joseph Cini, while armed with both a shotgun and dynamite, was overcome and captured by a flight attendant and two members of the flight crew? Source: ^[3]^[4]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Paleoserenomyces
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@GenQuest: It's been a week since the nomination; please provide a QPQ so that the nomination won't be marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
- Narutolovehinata5 Hey! I've had a time crunch in RL due to medical stuff. So you know: I have done QPQ for 6 of my 7 noms to help out. Can I use one of my free ones's on this? Please let me know. GenQuest ^"scribble" 20:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

@GenQuest: I don't think it's allowed under the rules I'm afraid. However, I'm willing to donate a QPQ if you absolutely will be unable to provide a QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:34, 9 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Narutolovehinata5 That used to be the case for your first five articles, lots of us just "banked" them, but I never used any of that. But, if the rules have changed since then, so be it. I'll find time to review one. Thanks for the offer anyway. GenQuest ^"scribble" 00:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

A QPQ has now been done so this is ready for a full review. To answer your question: the freebies as far as the rules go only seem to refer to the first five credits (now nominations); there's nothing about "stocking up" freebies by starting to do QPQs early. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
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Overall: I assume good faith on the print reference. Tumblr is an unreliable source.
:NOTICE: @SL93: Offending source and any content specific to it has been removed. GenQuest ^"scribble" 02:44, 5 January 2023 (UTC) SL93 (talk) 01:19, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

GenQuest Can you cite ~~"first Canadian to hijack a commercial airliner and~~[no] ... the first person to plan a skyjacking with an escape by use of a parachute"^[2] in the article along with the rest of the lead? I don't see the info in the article body either. I don't see mention of three flight crew members^[4] in the article. SL93 (talk) 02:54, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

SL93 can't locate my orig source for "first Canadian", so I removed from article and ALTs for expediency; The rest are cited as above; I added some content to the lede regarding the stewardess and two other flight crew members that subdued him [Dohey, Flight Purser Arpin, and Captain Ehman]. They are mentioned in the article body.

GenQuest The last that I can see in the lead that is uncited is - "the first person to plan a skyjacking with a planned escape by use of a parachute"^[2]^[1] and that the wildnerness was in Alberta, Canada.^[5] SL93 (talk) 13:45, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

SL93 See the added text(s) to refs I've made to help clarify. BTW: Calgary is in Alberta. Thanks for the help, GenQuest ^"scribble" 17:48, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

The part "is noted as the first person to plan a skyjacking with a planned escape by use of a parachute" still wasn't referenced in the article so I added the citation. This is ready and the promoter can choose the hook. SL93 (talk) 17:55, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

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^ ^a ^b ^c Paul Joseph Cini Hijacked a Plane Because He Had an Idea: Parachuting; WebPage: Slate.com; text: He had a shotgun, dynamite, a collapsible shovel, a pup tent, candy bars, and a dark-blue parachute. What could go wrong?; retrieved 27 November 2022; Text: "Paul Joseph Cini would be remembered not as the world’s first “parajacker” but as a fool ... The fame that Cini so desperately craved would instead go the fabled D.B. Cooper, who jumped out of a Northwest Orient Airlines jet 11 days later and was never seen again..."
^ ^a ^b ^c Hijacker Gets a Life Term...; April 13, 1972; article; NYT; p. 86; retrieved 1 December 2022; Text: "CALGARY, Alberta, April 12 (AP)—Paul Joseph Cini, regarded as the first hijacker to attempt to use a parachute, has been sentenced to life in prison..."
^ Mary Dohey: First living person to receive Cross of Valour after Air Canada Hijacking; Clancy, C.J.; 6 October 2021; WebPage; Irish Central Newsletter; retrieved 1 December 2022
^ ^a ^b Stewardess Awarded Cross; 6 December 6, 1975; article; Montreal Gazette; Canadian Press; retrieved 1 December 2022; p. 13.
^ Life Sentence Meant to Deter Plane Hijacking; 12 April 1972; "Ottawa Citizen"; retrieved 29 November 2022; p. 17; Text: "...he was slugged unconscious in a wild struggle with the crew as the plane descended virtually blind toward Calgary[, Alberta] on a cloudy night..."

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[Idea-1] Paul Joseph Cini Hijacked a Plane Because He Had an Idea: Parachuting; WebPage: Slate.com; text: He had a shotgun, dynamite, a collapsible shovel, a pup tent, candy bars, and a dark-blue parachute. What could go wrong?; retrieved 27 November 2022; Text: "Paul Joseph Cini would be remembered not as the world’s first “parajacker” but as a fool ... The fame that Cini so desperately craved would instead go the fabled D.B. Cooper, who jumped out of a Northwest Orient Airlines jet 11 days later and was never seen again..."

[LifTerm-2] Hijacker Gets a Life Term...; April 13, 1972; article; NYT; p. 86; retrieved 1 December 2022; Text: "CALGARY, Alberta, April 12 (AP)—Paul Joseph Cini, regarded as the first hijacker to attempt to use a parachute, has been sentenced to life in prison..."

[Irish-3] Mary Dohey: First living person to receive Cross of Valour after Air Canada Hijacking; Clancy, C.J.; 6 October 2021; WebPage; Irish Central Newsletter; retrieved 1 December 2022

[Gazet-4] Stewardess Awarded Cross; 6 December 6, 1975; article; Montreal Gazette; Canadian Press; retrieved 1 December 2022; p. 13.

[Citiz-5] Life Sentence Meant to Deter Plane Hijacking; 12 April 1972; "Ottawa Citizen"; retrieved 29 November 2022; p. 17; Text: "...he was slugged unconscious in a wild struggle with the crew as the plane descended virtually blind toward Calgary[, Alberta] on a cloudy night..."

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