Talk:Pacific Islanders and Mormonism

Undiscussed move undone

The recent unilateral, undiscussed move has been undone. The article appears to have been created under this name in 2013, and has remained stable ever since. Any move should be the result of discussion and consensus. Please see WP:RM#CM and follow the guideline there for how to list this page for a move to your desired title. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:23, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Did you have any thoughts Datu Hulyo or Mathglot on the current discussion for the move proposed below? Pastelitodepapa (talk) 04:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Datu Hulyo is a sockpuppet, indeffed in August 2023. Mathglot (talk) 04:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 18 March 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Pastelitodepapa (talk) 06:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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Mormonism and Pacific Islanders → Pacific Islanders and Mormonism – I propose to change this article title to match the naming conventions of related articles like Native American people and Mormonism, Black people and Mormonism. It's a subtle change, but I like that it puts the people first and a movement's name second, and would conform to the other two article wording order. I'm also open to swapping the order of the other two articles to standardize all three as it makes sense for them to all follow the same title pattern. I believe it's just easier to switch this one then both the other two, and puts the people first this way. Thoughts anyone? Pastelitodepapa (talk) 02:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

• Support, the better convention. Hyperbolick (talk) 06:35, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
• Support, per WP:CONSISTENT. These two searches appear to confirm the wording order issue, but more data would be helpful. (Note: I have been canvassed in the previous section. That said, I reverted a previous undiscussed move here and this article is on my watchlist, so I likely would have seen the discussion eventually.) Mathglot (talk) 05:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you for the response and for the information on the sockpuppet account that attempted the previous move. I wanted to make sure you approved this time before doing any move as you had (justifiably) reverted the previous move that was undiscussed. Since the current move has been proposed for a week and the discussion seems to have run it's course, and is unanimous (albeit small), I'm going to be WP:BOLD and do the move. Pastelitodepapa (talk) 05:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

You are involved, and cannot close the discussion. I've reverted the move again, pending further discussion. Mathglot (talk) 08:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Mathglot, please don't move talk pages independently of their articles. I see that you supported the move above, and nobody objected. Yes, ideally Pastelitodepapa would be patient and wait for someone else to move the page, and please don't do that again; this is an inappropriate invocation of "BOLD". Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the move only moved the Talk page; I haven't seen that before; normally if I do a move, both are moved. It seems the same thing happened when user Pp moved it the other way earlier, maybe that had something to do with it? In any case, thanks for bringing them back into sync. Mathglot (talk) 17:49, 30 March 2024 (UTC)