Talk:Ordination of women in Christianity

Arguments for/against ordination

I removed (via undo) this edit. The text appears to be from another Wiki article, which I could not find. However, the ref named "Phillips" does not exist in this article; hunting up the quote revealed that most of the text in the "for" section is plagiarized from this 2008 article. I did not research further to determine if the "against" is all original -- I am not interested in this subject, I was here to fix the ref error -- but it is suspect because of the above copyvio. - Salamurai (talk) 03:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Examples within specific churches

The Presbyterian Church(USA) did not exist prior to 1983, (I believe that is the right date); the church that began ordaining women was the "Northern" church, United Presbyterian Church, or UPC . See www.pcusa.org

please correct your data 32tdr (talk) 20:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

-- edited the "Quaker" example of presiding clerk to say 'historically exclusively men' rather than the nonsensical 'included men.' Monthly, Quarterly, and Yearly Meeting sessions had men's and women's sessions, with their own leadership structure. Minutes were passed between the two groups, and sometimes joint committees were formed. Some time in the 19th century, the two groups were combined into one... and yes, for a while, clerks remained men after that integration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.115.217 (talk) 13:15, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Random comment left on Wikidata talk page

The ECO Presbyterian Church formed in 2012 does ordain women. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 9.109.13.33 (talk) 02:01, 2 August 20139

Copying here. No clue if it's relevant. I believe this is in reference to the Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians, but I could be wrong. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 02:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Priesthood of all believers

I took the liberty to remove the part about Priesthood of all believers because that subject hasn't got to do anything with women, while the article is really about women. A discussion of Priesthood of all believers may take place in the more general article about Ordination. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Analphabetism

Who wrote this article? It is in an extremely poor and clumsy English, ortography is a disaster as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.120.139.225 (talk) 03:18, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Rename or rearrange

Given the debates about the boundaries of "Protestantism" I suggest renaming this article to "Ordination of women in Christianity" and change the link in the Ordination of women article. Then move a fair bit of the stuff in the Ordination of women article into this. Failing that make clear what types of Protestant churches we are talking about and have clear links to related articles. Thoughts? --Erp (talk) 02:15, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Main topic

Hello Anupam (talk · contribs). The information about denominations that do not, have been removed (off topic and useless). References have been added for favorable denominations. Thanks for your help. My best wishes of peace and love (Wikipedia:WikiLove).--Nathan B2 (talk) 02:01, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

You have made a mass deletion of information from this article even though I reverted you per WP:BRD. Not only that, but you have violated WP:3RR. Self-revert and then Gain consensus on the talk page for each and every deletion you have made or I will report you for edit warring. Anupam^Talk 02:06, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello Anupam (talk · contribs). Thank you for the message. The historic shows that you made 3 reverts first. Explanations have been given in the talk pages. The removed content is about denominations that do not (off topic and useless) and duplicates (example: each line says the same thing has been replaced by a title consistent with the main subject : Christian denominations that ordain women). Thanks for your help. My best wishes of peace and love (Wikipedia:WikiLove).--Nathan B2 (talk) 02:14, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

It looks like there are competence issues here with Nathan B2's message and rapid reverts. Leaving a note on the talk page and then continuing to revert isn't what BRD calls for. If your edits have been reversed for making MAJOR changes to the article, the onus is on you to prove them. I see that you have removed mention of counterbalancing denominations that don't ordain women in order to make it seem that all the traditions mentioned do ordain women. That is misleading and violates our neutrality guideline. Indyguy, your thoughts? desmay (talk) 02:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello Desmay (talk · contribs). Thank you for the message. The removed content is about denominations that do not (off topic and useless). Each line that mentions “ordain women” has been replaced by a title consistent with the main subject “Christian denominations that ordain women“. Hope the explanation is clearer. Thanks for your help. My best wishes of peace and love (Wikipedia:WikiLove).--Nathan B2 (talk) 02:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

What? No, the article is about the ordination of women in Christianity and that discussion includes both denominations that DO ordain women and those that DO NOT! You can't redefine the article to only include the position that you agree with. Looking at some of your other edits, I see you have done the same elsewhere. I disagree with your edits as well and am glad that I noticed them. desmay (talk) 02:33, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello Desmay (talk · contribs). Thank you for the message. You have the right to disagree with a point of view. Other contributors will be able to give their point of view on the usefulness of mentioning in detail all the denominations which do not do so in this article. Or create separate sections. Thanks for your help. My best wishes of peace and love (Wikipedia:WikiLove).--Nathan B2 (talk) 02:46, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

User:Desmay, I'm glad you agree—it is a no-brainer to see that the information User:Nathan B2 deleted is indeed relevant to this article. I appreciate you restoring the information. With regards, Anupam^Talk 02:51, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Nathan B2, nope. It's more simpler and user-friendly to discuss each denomination under its own heading, e.g. Catholic, Anglican, Etc. desmay (talk) 03:05, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

• Obviously, the material should not have been deleted by Nathan. Capitals00 (talk) 15:06, 22 June 2023 (UTC)