Talk:Operation Independence

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Comment: While the content of the article appears to be quite accurate and neutral, it would be highly beneficial if at least some of the statements can be supported by referencing appropriate bibliografy and references (books, newspaper/magazines articles, etc.); otherwise they might be challenged as "unsupported". At this moment, only references to certain decrees exist. Thanks and regards, DPdH 23:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

C-130 blown up

I've noticed the link that confirms this guerrilla success is no longer available online. Maybe it's available through Wayback Machine?

I hope this book [1](Guerrillas and Generals: The "Dirty War" in Argentina - by Paul H. Lewis)helps you DagosNavy in your research of this very sad episode in Argentina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Historyneverrepeats (talk • contribs) 09:37, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The following is quoted from a review of that book

I have studied the Argentine Dirty War for over 20 years, and if I were to recommend one book to anyone to read on the subject it would be this one. There are two things that Lewis does which really set this book apart from the literature on the subject so far. First, Lewis describes and makes sense out of all of the background starting with Peron that led up to the Dirty War. This really helps place the Dirty War in its proper context so the reader can comprehend why such terrible things occurred later. He then gives a full account of all the atrocities committed by the Argentine military. In this way he does not exonerate or excuse the Dirty War, but does make sense of why things happened the way they did.

Second, Lewis points out that there really was a war going on. The guerrillas were active, were powerful, were committing acts of terrorism and were seriously threatening to destabilize the Argentine state. A lot of anti-military sources try to portray the security threat posed by the guerrillas as a figment of the military's imagination. This was simply not true. There was a real war going on and Lewis shows that this was the case. Lewis does not excuse the ways the military chose to deal with the guerrilla threat, but does explain why rational and normal men would choose to commit such horrorific acts. In their mind they were in a desperate life and death struggle, and they acted accordingly. In retrospect they made some very bad choices, but Lewis helps explain how it all seemed rational and necessary at the time.

This book is balanced, honest and cuts through a lot of the cherished popular myths. It is fair to both sides of the conflict. Finally it is well written and flows well. I got through it in two days. This book will become a classic text on the Argentine Dirty War.--78.129.158.35 (talk) 02:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't see how the abduction of pregnant women and the theft of their newborn children could ever be seen as "rational" or "necessary", no matter at what time you approach the analysis. If you want to truly understand the political and social climate that lead up to the Dirty War, I may recommend reading Rodolfo Walsh's nonfiction novel, Operación Masacre (Operation Massacre, considered as the wiki article says, to be the very first of its genre by some) which describes a real life event: a clandestine abduction and excecution of civilians by firing squad, without evidence or trial and before the official declaration of Martial law, carried out and covered up by policemen and law enforcement authorities in as early as 1956 (only a year after Peron's deposition). This is a critical event, as it is considered by many as one of the earliest examples in the country of a documented modern-day excecution carried out by the authorities solely on the basis of guilt by association.201.253.129.175 (talk) 00:16, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

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