Talk:Operation Albion

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Spinney Hill in topic British involvement

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Hi, this article lacks citations and is too brief. Will tag accordingly. Regards, DPdH (talk) 06:56, 8 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Operation Albion Wiki

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The article is a little brief but, then again, the event isn't too well known. One area which can be changed is that when the battle was fought, Tsar Nicholas II, was still the Russian ruler. Consequently, the country should be referred to as the "Russian Empire" rather than the Russian Republic.

One other thing: showing the flags of the two nations... I believe the German flag is correct for the German Empire but the Russian flag is indicative of modern times (i.e., today). The colors of the Russian flag are correct and in the proper order. However, I believe the Russian national flag also had a yellow field in the left corner (as we look at the flag) with a two-headed Russian imperial eagle in it, superimposed over the tri-color white-red-blue.

Thanks and hope this is helpful. AlexeiRomanov (talk) 00:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

The operation took place after the abdication of the tsar during the lifetime of the Kerensky (or provisional) government before the Bolshevik Revolution of November 1917 (the "October Revolution." The germans' reasons for the invasion would largely have dissappeared after that Revolution since the Bolsheviks had made it clear they wanted an armistice.

There appear to be a number of problems with the article but it is difiicult to complete it as there are few mentions of the action in generalist sources. I'm not an expert in naval warfare or the eastern front in the first world war and I don't have much in the way of specialist sources on those subjects. None of them mention the Battle of Moon Sound or Operation Albion. Liddell Hart writing in 1930 and revising in 1934 deals very briefly with the capture of Riga and in the next sentence moves onto the "October Revolution." AJP Taylor in what is a very brief and witty popular history entitled "The First World War: an illustrated history" first published in 1963 calls the capture of Riga on 1 September 1917 "the last engagement between the Germans and the old Russian army." he then deals with Kornilov's attempted coup and the October revolution. John Keegan in 1998 likewise does not mention Moon Sound or Albion

1{{cite book|last1=Hart|first1=Liddell|title=History of the World War 1914-1918|date=1934|publisher=Faber & Faber Lmt|location=London|edition=2nd}(original title of First Edtion of 1930 The Real War} 2 Taylor, A.J.P (1966). The First World War:an illustrated history. Harmondsworth: Penguin. ISBN 0-14-00.2481-6 Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help).(originally published in hardback by Hamish Hamilton 1963 3 Keegan, John (1999). The First World War (Pimlico ed. ed.). London: Pimlico. ISBN 0-7126-6645-1.Originally published in Hardback by Hutchinson 1998 Spinney Hill (talk) 23:41, 22 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

British involvement

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Exactly what was the British involvemnet? The WP article on the submarine flotilla in the Baltic mentions very briefly an attempt by HMS C32 to stop the German attack but gives no details. It does not mention the other two submarines as taking part. tHIS MAkes me ask the question whether there was any British involvement. Should it remain in the article?Spinney Hill (talk) 14:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC)Reply