Talk:Northwest Georgia

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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page moved to Northwest Georgia (U.S.): per discussion Ground Zero | t 01:06, 16 September 2014 (UTC)Reply



Northwest GeorgiaNorthwest Georgia (U.S. state) – I boldy moved this page to Northwest Georgia (U.S. state), only to have it reverted a couple of months later with the edit summary Nonsense. The dis-ambiguation suffix implies that it is a U.S. state itself with that name, not a division of Georgia. The title Northwest Georgia is ambiguous an can be used to describe an area of the U.S. state or the country and almost all Georgia-related articles use a disambiguator (the exception being City, State articles for Georgia, USA), so it fails WP:NAMINGCRITERIA. I propose this page moves to Northwest Georgia (U.S. state), which is recognizable and unambiguous. Zarcadia (talk) 11:44, 3 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

  • NW Georgia in the Caucuses is Abkhazia, so is quite important in international affairs, since it's just like Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. Not quite as controversial as South Ossetia, another region of Georgia that is also a dispute between Russia and Georgia. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 05:12, 5 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
It's an interesting stretch of land between an enormous metro area and a mountainous mid-sized metro area, and it has relatively distinct and obvious boundaries. It's a reasonably distinct cultural and geographical region. Sorry Red Slash, it may be interesting to you but that doesn't make it notable, or more so than the area of the country. Also, it's boundaries are apparently arbitrary and nothing more than the whim of editors. Zarcadia (talk) 20:31, 5 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
As proposer I can't support but agree with suggestion to move to Northwest Georgia (U.S.) or Northwest Georgia (United States). Zarcadia (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
This comment is not supporting the U.S. State as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but rather rather questioning the validity of the article. Hopefully the closing admin can see this. Zarcadia (talk) 20:22, 5 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
If the article is invalid, then it should not be renamed (moved). --Bejnar (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merge and redirect

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Merge and redirect to List of counties in Georgia (U.S. state). The cities are better mentioned (if appropriate) at Georgia_(U.S._state). This page contentless navigation trivia. It is an unworthy article, a contrived list, which if it were notable belongs inside the article List of counties in Georgia (U.S. state). The move proposal wantingly implies legitimacy of the article, which shouldn't be given, though the current title is ambiguous with the far more worthy topic of Colchis, the important northwest lowlands of the Kingdom of Georgia. Resist the biases of localism and recentism. At best, a stretch, the content of this article belongs in a navigation template. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:37, 9 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wouldn't the need to point out Colchis imply having a disambiguation page at Northwest Georgia ? -- 70.51.201.202 (talk) 05:52, 9 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
No. There are only two "northwest Georgia"s, (ignoring that neither are defined in sources) and neither belong at that title. This one doesn't belong, but even if it did, the two would just need hatnotes pointing to each other, per WP:TWODABS. The other is better covered under other titles, such as Colchis. If someone where to want information on this NW Georgia, well there is no encycolpedic information to find. If someone were to want information on the fairly interesting region that is currently northwest Georgia, firstly, they should probably be looking via the history of Georgia, or via the names of the historic nations. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:16, 9 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 31 August 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was:


– These articles have confusing and inconsistent disambiguation. These should be moved to the base name, with hatnotes used to address ambiguity between the U.S. state and the country. In the first case, in spite of the previous RM consensus above, Northwest Georgia still redirects there, which is WP:MISPLACED and defeats the attempt at disambiguation. In the second case, the disambiguator is confusing in that it suggests there is a country named "Eastern Georgia" rather than describing a region of Georgia (country), and again Eastern Georgia is a misplaced redirect there. Most analogous titles are not disambiguated:

We should be consistent with how these are treated, and add/update hatnotes. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:19, 31 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 (talk) 02:09, 13 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Weak Support 1st, Oppose on 2nd - Given that Northwest Georgia (in terms of the country) is probably roughly the same as Abkhazia and the hatnote should solve confusion there. In terms of the 2nd, I feel like "Eastern Georgia" could just as easily refer to the eastern portion of the state. Plus, it seems like that could be just an wikipedia invention. In any case that is the wrong title as it implies "Eastern Georgia" is a country. Honestly, it probably could just as easily be merged into Geography of Georgia (country). estar8806 (talk) 01:28, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Georgia's kinda diagonal geography doesn't lend itself to an East/West split. That article would likely never exist.
  • Support first, Neutral on second - Per estar8806 on Northwest GA. I also agree a merge is probably better for Eastern Georgia.
BilCat (talk) 02:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oppose both. Both country and state have a "Northwest" and an "Eastern" section to them. Gonnym (talk) 19:49, 13 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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