Talk:National secondary road

I am trying to come up with a fact-box for National secondary roads; below is my first attempt in the N80 article:

Destinations (NW to SE)
N80 through Stradbally The N80 crosses the N78 at a staggered junction County Westmeath Moate County Offaly Tober Clara Tullamore Killeigh County Laois Twomile Bridge Mountmellick Portlaoise Stradbally Arless Ballickmoyler County Carlow Carlow Ballon Kildavin County Wexford Bunclody N11

One problem; it could do with the route-marker logo which appears in all the Motorway and Primary route articles (usually supplied by User:Zoney as far as I can tell).

The box (right) here is obviously copied and modified from the Primary N-series articles; adjusted for the fact that very few towns are bypassed and the roads don't have interchanges.

Would any genius out there like to try and come up with a more refined info-box so we can apply it to my planned series on Nat secondary roads?

I think such a series is a good way of cataloguing the geography of Ireland as they pass through all the main towns, hills, lakes, historic sites etc - they can be built into the link to all of these. Some graphic which maps the road with the various connections (towns, villages, junctions, sites, hills, points of interest, rivers and so forth) in some stylised manner would be great.

And for roads train-spotters we could give the carriageway standard of the various sections; these roads will be evolving for the next 20 years or more. (Sarah777 22:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC))

Zoney Template

R154 Destinations (SE to NW)
County Meath Black Bull - (leaves N3) Kiltale Trim (inner relief road) (Jcts. R160, R161, R898) Athboy - (meets N51) (crosses N52) Crossakeel Junction with (R163) Oldcastle (crosses R195) County Cavan Mount Nugent (meets R194) Kilnaleck Ballinagh (crosses N55)

This is better, it includes road connections/junctions. Still need route-marker logo to give it a nice presentation. HOW are these generated? (Sarah777 23:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC))

Removed boldface

I removed the bold mark-up from the road names in the road list table cos I felt it was unnecessary mark-up. I've centered the road names instead to make them stand out. Ga2re2t (talk) 09:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Roads with no article are redirected to National secondary road article?

I've noticed that secondary roads with no article of their own are redirected to this article. Why? Surely it would be more productive not to have redirects and instead create red links to those pages. I know it's not pretty but I feel it would encourage more people to start a dedicated page to those roads. The roads with no namespace of their own appear to be: N56 road, N67 road, N68 road, N69 road, N70 road, N72 road, N73 road, N85 road and N86 road. Ga2re2t (talk) 09:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Agree - the redirects to the general article were done when there were very few articles I suspect. Red link v no link? I'm neutral; but I tend to leave red links myself. (Sarah777 (talk) 22:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC))

I also prefer to create a basic stub rather than a one-liner; each has a photo and a route-box at minimum as the existence of a one-line stub hides the fact that there is no article. (Sarah777 (talk) 22:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC))

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