Talk:Nasi (Hebrew title)

Shouldn't these completely different usages (since 1/06) be split up into two articles with a dismabiguation? 69.251.2.88 17:55, 24 March 2006 (UTC)turnip

Present Day Sanhedrin and its approach to the title Nasi

Nāśī’ (נָשִׂיא) is a Hebrew term meaning, roughly, "Prince", in Biblical Hebrew, or "President," in Modern Hebrew. During the Second Commonwealth period the Nasi was the highest ranking member and presided over the Sanhedrin, including when it sat as a criminal court. The position was created in about 191 BCE when the Sanhedrin lost confidence in the ability of the high priests to serve as its head. The Romans recognised the Nasi as "Patriarch of the Jews", and required all Jews to pay a tax for the upkeep of that office, which ranked high in the Roman official hierarchy. Gamaliel VI was the last nasi; he died in 425, and the Emperor suppressed the office of patriarch.

Certain great figures from the Jewish history are referred to by this title, e.g., Judah haNasi.

In modern Hebrew, Nasi means primarily "President", and is not used in its ancient meaning (the word for Prince nowadays is "Nasich"). It is used as the Hebrew equivalent of "President" (Prime Minister is "Rosh Memshala").

Under Jewish law, the intercalary 13th month Adar 2 in Hebrew calendar is always announced by the Nasi.

Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz is currently the Nasi of an attempt to re-establish Judaism's High Court and Minor Courts.

Historically incorrect data needs to be adjusted such as a "Second Commonwealth period" in Judaism and/or Hebrew History does not exist.

15:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)15:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)15:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)~~

Just a few questions:
How does a Jewish Rabbi without a Tribe become a Nasi!?
How does a Jewish Rabbi without a Tribe become a Kohan or a Kohan Gadol?
How does a Jewish Rabbi without a Tribe become a Levite?

Your starting date of Sanhedrin (196BCE)is the date the Levites walked out of the Temple Service and left the authority with the Pharisees/Hasidim. The Kohanim was ousted by the Pharisees/Hasidim in 60CE or 10 years before the Great Revolt which was in reality a Civil War the Romans ended by destroying the Temple.

Your long list of names claiming this to be Nasi, head of Sanhedrin is a list of Hasidim Jews not Israel. What you produced is a Hasidim Jewish List of Religious Leaders. You will have to prove the connection to Israeli Tribal Biblical Connection, which you have not. What you have is a Judaic Religion with followers who tried and still is trying to copy the Lifestyle of Tribal Israel claiming assuming the Israeli Role.

Brando with all due respect your knowledge of Ancient History needs an update. Can you define "Second Commonwealth". And Explain what the First Commonwealth was. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OnlookerObserves (talk • contribs) 15:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Reverted Edits by BCR123

I have reverted the numerous edits made by the user BCR123 - This is because you have unilaterally replaced the entire article in favor of your new version, which, while longer, is much less encyclopedic than the former, and is not written in a NPOV fashion.

A few examples of unencyclopedic edits:

• The Sanhedrin made its official debut with the arrival in the desert of Jethro, Moses' father-in-law. He took one look at Moses sorting through various disputes and came up with his famous suggestion for a court system; the high end being the Sanhedrin.

This, of course, is disputable.

• The Sandhedrin was the ultimate law-making and ruling body of the Children of Israel for close to 2000 years, from our years of wandering around in the desert, to the end of the Talmudic era.

This is written as though it is by Jews and for Jews, ie "our years," and not all Wikipedia readers. Similiarly:

• it was the sages of The Sanhedrin who put the pieces together for us as a people, after the destruction of the 2nd Temple and created what we now know as modern Judaism. Remember, in the Temple days, instead of the formal prayers we presently have, we had sacrifices.

• The Sanhedrin was always known as the body of the greatest sages of our people. Once we were no longer in one place, it became increasingly difficult to field our best in one location

• Even so, for most of its 2000 year history, the Sanhedrin was remarkably corruption free and was composed of our best, brightest and most righteous

Other edits are simply matters of opinion:

• The Biblical Sanhedrin ruled over Am Israel and Eretz Israel and made decisions that are, most likely, unparalleled to this day in their wisdom by any government in history. With such wisdom, in today's world, would the Sanhedrin still practice animal sacrifices or would it have evolved to a more refined offering such as flowers or offerings onto a higher spiritual level.

Please remember Wikipedia standards regarding Neutral point of view and No Original Research when adding information to Wikipedia, and please do not replace the entire page without any discussion.

Brando130 04:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Nasi meaning simply stir-fried rice

I think nasi also just means "fried rice". It is a chinese term and it is also the reason why so many rice dishes start with nasi (as in nasi goreng, ...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.64.192.75 (talk) 11:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Two things

1. It is needed to be said that Simon bar Kochba call himself 'Nasi', in letters and on coins.

2. In modern Hebrew, 'nasich' means 'king's son', a meaning that 'nasi' never had. whenever 'nasi' is translated as 'prince', it has to be understood as 'ruler', and never as 'king's son'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.86.90.137 (talk) 22:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

How many times in Masoretic text?

Here: [1] it says that it appears 129 times. Be good!238-Gdn (talk) 11:18, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Nasi Hador

What do you think about adding a section on the Chabad meaning of nasi, as in the generation's leader (נשיא הדור)? Be good!238-Gdn (talk) 11:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

If the definition of "nasi" by Chabad can be supported by sources, it might be a good thing to mention it in an already existing section.Davidbena (talk) 15:49, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

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Nazi

Is that were the polemical term NAZI comes from? 105.8.3.215 (talk) 14:23, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

The official version is that Nazi is short for Nationalsozialismus. Apparently, the nazis were no fan of being called nazis, as it was actually a derogatory term at the time, meaning foolish and clumsy person. Thinker78 (talk) 08:13, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

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