Talk:Multi-boxing

"By itself, it isn't considered cheating because it is difficult to control multiple characters at the same time"

Being viable doesn't mean it's cheating. --Jeremy Banks 23:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd define cheating as exploiting a bug or using a hack to circumvent a normal limitation of the game (e.g. runspeed hacks, unlimited health/ammo etc). Multiboxing is not cheating because you aren't doing anything you couldn't do if you grouped with another player instead; the characters are still subject to all of the rules of the gameworld and are controlled by a human directly. -- Rpvdk 13:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Rpvdk. Line removed. -- nacarlson 10:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

"Multiboxing is not cheating because you aren't doing anything you couldn't do if you grouped with another player instead;" And that's exactly why it's cheating: you're using hardware/software to achive tasks that otherwise require other human beings. When grouped with another players you share loot, when multiboxing it's all yours. So yes, you're doing something that is NOT possible (or at least likely) when playing with others. It's like running 100m in 4x100m and then driving remaining 300m because you did your part and were just unwilling/unable to find three other people to run with you. Anon 77.254.16.61 (talk) 11:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

You're still wrong, as it's also possible to multibox manually with multiple keyboards. The only thing the software does is clone keystrokes to let you use one; you're still pressing a button for every action. Plus, your opinion is irrelevant as opposed to the game developers Magus (talk) 17:19, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

The one thing I saw in the article that hooked me was the mention that players need to only have ONE IP address, and the fact that multiple computers are "merged" as one doesn't mean multiple addresses, but multiple PRIVATE addresses, which the game server never sees - it only sees the PUBLIC address that your ISP's router shows when logging in! So, basically, what I see with Multiboxing is to have several old and weak computers doing a job not too dissimilar to one top-of-the-line performant gaming computer; that's not cheating the game, that's cheating the computer stores!

Now, should anyone want to edit the article, they should check what the policies regarding public IP addresses versus private IP addresses are in gaming, 'cause NO ONE can see anyone's private addresses! (...except hackers!) ;-) 24.200.110.217 (talk) 21:02, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Runescape

"Games that do not allow a player to have more than one character at a time include [...] RuneScape." afaik, they don't limit the numbers of accounts but they don't want to play more than one at the same time. This is the reason why it's hard to tell how many people play Runescape even tough there are so many accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.88.27.45 (talk) 22:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

POV, article is one big pile of

Not a single source to back up claim that multiboxing is not cheating. Just because it's not specifically mentioned in game'a ToS doesn't mean it's allowed. It could simply mean developers didn't hear about it/considered it bad enough to warrant own paragraph in game rules. Even if "technically" not cheating, some players see it that way (see talk page or pretty much any game forum where multiboxing is popular). I've been player long enough to know that cheaters/exploiters always try to come up with excuse and justify their actions. And last but not least, most sources are WoW-related despite article claiming it's about all MMOs. Not to mention some random internet forum (not even topic, just main forum page) used as source to justify claims made in article. Anon 77.254.16.61 (talk) 11:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

It's not PoV, but it is harder to get citations for things, as most of them tend to be posts on game forums which may or may not survive to present day. (WoW for instance has completely redone their forums in the switch to battle.net, and all old posts, including the ones approving multiboxing, are gone) Magus (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Many regular players try to come up with excuses and justify the fact that others are cheating, when they are only using clever game mechanics that regular players are not able/willing to use (farming, sniping, etc). As far as most game designers are concerned, multiboxing is tolerated and not considered cheating. Xerxes1337 (talk) 22:33, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

"Multi-boxing in-and-of-itself is not inherently bad or against our TOS." LOTRO community manager speaking for developer team. http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?515600-Twenty-Questions-with-the-LOTRO-Dev-Team Graphiya (talk) 02:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)02:43, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

References

Does someone have the following book? https://books.google.nl/books?id=hVpHBtyaUJcC&pg=PA140&dq=multi-boxing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jNWXVPCuFY6vacPFgrgB&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=multi-boxing&f=false It looks like an amazing source.

Found another book I don't own, but could prove an excelent source: https://books.google.nl/books?id=wutGAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA310&dq=multi-boxing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iteXVOq8KYbdat-SgNAH&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=multi-boxing&f=false ~Mable (chat) 08:35, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what this book has to say about the topic, but it probably aids in establishing notability :p https://books.google.nl/books?id=q3o_80XEQOMC&pg=PA97&dq=multi-boxing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0deXVMKUI43bavX_gPAN&redir_esc=y Again, if anyone has any of these books, try to implement them in the article! ~Mable (chat) 08:37, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Does anyone know if the following is reliable? http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Multiple_logging-in It's hosted on somekind of wiki, but seems written by Runescape's developers/staff. ~Mable (chat) 10:22, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Biased as heck

Anyone can take one look at this article and immediately recognize it was written by someone with a heavy bias towards the practice. It almost reads like a 10th grade persuasive essay language arts final, I would say it's far from the standard that should be expected from this site 50.89.100.33 (talk) 04:26, 28 December 2022 (UTC)