Talk:Mihrigul Tursun

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Czello in topic Bias and NPOV issues

Bias and NPOV issues

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This article seems to rely too heavily on Chinese state-owned media outlets, although I removed a number of statements already. Naturally, China has a vested interest in denying Tursun's experiences. Have there been any articles putting state media's claims in context? Benny White (talk) 05:34, 20 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Benny White, While Chinese media are obviously state propaganda, I do wonder if we shouldn't report some of what they say, with attribution, including [1]. Diff to your removal, for reference. That said, we already state that China has disagreed with her claims, so there's that, expanding this could be WP:UNDUE... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:23, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Chinese media is 'state propaganda' but the Washington Post is not ? Almost everything in this article is unsubstantiated claims, many of them ludicrous. She was sterilized but didn't notice ? You know, there is good money to be made in the US by being a "victim of the CCP" and not all people are honest, e.g. Nayirah and her preemie baby claims. This article should really be scrutinized much more heavily. 203.160.86.235 (talk) 17:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
No, the WaPo is not state propaganda. Per WP:RSP it's generally considered reliable. If you want to change that you'll have to take it to WP:RSN. — Czello 17:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Inconsistent claims about her husband

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She claims her husband was arrested in China in 2016 and imprisoned for 16 years ([2] "I landed in Cairo, Egypt on April 28 … I looked for [my husband] as soon as I arrived, but I learned from his coworker that he returned to China in 2016 to bring his family back and was detained at the airport in Beijing. He was later sentenced to 16 years in prison."). Chinese authorities claim that he returned with her to Egypt in 2018. This should be relatively easy to verify, did nobody try to corroborate either version with her husband's family in Egypt? If an Egyptian national was arrested in China, this should generate some coverage in Egyptian media, one would think...? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:09, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Undue weight on self-testimony

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A good portion of the narrative in this page relies on her own testimony of events whilst in China. In text citing Source 2, there seems to be very little addressing of this fact, instead taking her statements for truth without clarifying that this is from her testimony (this does occur, just quite rarely). It seems to overly legitimize her personal testimony and thereby misleads the reader. Augend (drop a line) 21:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)Reply