Talk:Maungawhau railway station

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Axver in topic New article

New article edit

It's not just the name that changes, but the island platform design will be replaced with a proper railway station, so they really are two different things. Can I therefore suggest that we keep this article, and start a new one for Maungawhau railway station? Schwede66 03:29, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's effectively a completely new station with a different name that happens to be on the same site, so doing so would make sense. YttriumShrew (talk) 08:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
ShakyIsles, care to join this discussion instead of unilaterally moving pages? Schwede66 08:23, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Sincerely sorry, I didn't check the talk page. Happy to revert and help build new article if that is the consensus. I just saw one article as the other one hadn't been written yet.
My thinking was it is just the same station albeit with an extensive rebuild - the same as Britomart / Waitemata. That's also the official line with the naming announcement. The old tracks still go through the same part of the station and the island platform is still there in a near identical position on that line although it has been widened. ShakyIsles (talk) 19:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
ShakyIsles, it's always a good idea to both check the edit history of an article for prior moves (top tip: check the edit history of the talk page as it's much shorter but moves show there, too) and scan the talk page before you do anything. But coming to the topic at hand. I'm still not convinced that it's "still the same station". I've had a look at aerials but can't see that the existing island has been widened. The aerial on OpenStreetMap (in edit mode) appears to show exactly what's always been there. Schwede66 21:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
It might be the same island patform which make the case that it is the same station just with an extra line with two more platforms and a fancy building atop it all. ShakyIsles (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Not clear how the previous island platform was not "a proper railway station". If it's on the same site, the norm would be to treat it as a new name for an existing station, even if it has been renovated substantially. This is true of numerous stations in NZ's history (the Quail Map contains many examples of renamed stations) and articles on here have typically encompasses all iterations of a station's history, even if it changed names or was moved slightly up or down a line. See, for instance, Hamilton Central railway station, which encompasses the full history of a station known at various times as Hamilton, Hamilton West, and Hamilton Travel Centre, and was at one point a surface station before being relocated underground. As a less dramatic example, the present Paremata railway station is not on the identical site of the original 1885 station but the article encompasses both. I do not think we should have separate articles for Mt Eden/Maungawhau station. Axver (talk) 13:11, 18 March 2023 (UTC)Reply