Talk:Mary Wright (designer)

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Alanna the Brave in topic Women in Green -- 20-minute assessment (mini-review)

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk03:40, 14 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that the mid-century American designer Mary Wright's "manifesto" Guide to Easier Living, co-authored with Russel Wright, proposed that all of life could be viewed as "engineering problems with scientific solutions"? Source: The New York Times, [1] "In 1950, the Wrights published their manifesto, Guide to Easier Living. It captured the spirit of an upbeat era that reduced all of life to engineering problems with scientific solutions."

Created by Netherzone (talk). Self-nominated at 23:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC).Reply

  - She is a notable designer and this article is well written with lots of good refs. Its neutral and the main image is not free so it could not be used. The hook is interesting enough and short enough although it is 215 chars. Not sure why this has waited for a review but its fine at the mo. Sad to see that there is no picture of the pottery she designed in 1946 as Russel seems to take the credit in the Bauer article but thats not important for the DYK tick. Alt wording "that Russel and Mary Wright's American design "manifesto" Guide to Easier Living proposed that life was "engineering problems with scientific solutions"?" No evidence of paraphrasing that I and Earwig could find... oh and I rebalanced her husbands article which included her contributions under Private Life. Victuallers (talk) 09:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the review, Victuallers! I like the ALT wording you recommended - it's more streamlined, and works better as a DYK. I'm still new to the DYK process, so I don't know if it OK change it above at this stage of the process. Agree about the lack of an image. All I could find was an image of her shot in "the 1920s" that does not have an author or copyright notice; I'm not sure that that would qualify as a "free image". Unfortunately no free images of her design work from the Country Gardens line in the 1940s could be found. Netherzone (talk) 20:36, 13 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
You can change the text of the hook if you want the text to be something like that or add similar as an alt. (so that someone else can decide). I dont understand US copyrights maybe some can help. In the EU and UK we can use images if they are more than 70 years old AND the photographer is unknown. The template for the license when loading the image to commons is PD-EU-anonymous or PD-UK-unknown (in both cases they need to be in double curly brackets). I did write an email to the museum to ask if they might release some images but usually museums dont understand licensing to the level that wikimedia demands. Hope that makes sense. Victuallers (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
ALT1 to T:DYK/P5

Women in Green -- 20-minute assessment (mini-review)

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Hello! As requested by Netherzone via the October 2024 Women in Green editathon event page, here is a quick 20-minute assessment of the article to help suggest what key improvements might be needed before any formal attempt at submitting the article as a Good Article (GA) nomination. This article is looking pretty solid -- it's stable, the content has a good number of citations, fair use images are properly tagged, and it stays focused on relevant details. Certainly well on its way toward being ready for a GA nomination. Here are a few things that could use attention right now:

  • The article subject is referred to as both "Wright" and "Mary" in different paragraphs -- aim to use her surname consistently, as per MOS:SURNAME.
  • Wright's birth name and date of birth should be mentioned and cited within the main article text.
  • What was the Raymor Company?
  • There are a couple of non-neutral quotations that provide an opinion about Mary Wright's impact without really explaining it or providing evidence, and these should probably be paraphrased and/or expanded with additional context. --> The "Wrights shaped modern American lifestyle" and "The Wrights' "intuitive, humanist design and marketing savvy built a lifestyle empire that modernized the American home, popularizing ideas of open-plan layouts and outdoor living." (Why? How so?)
  • The legacy section is sparse. How exactly did the Wrights "shape" the American lifestyle, and what did that mean to designers and consumers? Did their work influence subsequent dinnerware or home décor designs?
  • Although the Earwig tool doesn't flag any copy-vio issues, I did a quick book spot-check and found at least one sentence that needs stronger paraphrasing: "In 1940, with the guidance of Eleanor Roosevelt..." (Keep an eye out for any others, too!)
  • One reference source appears to have been duplicated several times, making it tricky for readers to locate the full bibliographic info from the first instance: Albrecht, Schonfield & Shapiro (2001).

Best of luck, and please let me know if you have any questions about my comments. All the best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 23:33, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply