Talk:Martha Rockwell

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Lugnuts in topic Nonfree image misuse

Nonfree image misuse

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HopsonRoad, please note that nonfree images are, except in some extremely exceptional cases, considered replaceable in BLPs. The exceptions would be things like the person is a long-term recluse, imprisoned for life, a fugitive who no one knows the whereabouts of, etc. In this case, however, the image is not only replaceable but replaced. The question for NFCC #1 is "Do we have a photograph of the article subject?", not "Do we have the article subject at a particular place, time, doing a particular thing, etc.?". Allowing that kind of fine parsing would make NFCC #1 a dead letter, since you could always find something unique about the nonfree image. We have a free photo of the article subject. You did state you know who the photographer is, so you could ask them if they're willing to release the photo under CC-BY-SA. Maybe they are, and that'd solve the whole issue. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:46, 11 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Seraphimblade Thank you for your fuller explanation, here. I see that you do understand my point about NFCC #1, but I feel that WP:NFCC doesn't suggest exercising the same degree of caution that you describe, above. Rockwell was notable as a skier, not as an elderly person. Therefore, I feel that the case is strong to show her in the milieu for which she was noted, especially since imagery of that era is rare. Further, I don't feel that the use of the image violates WP:NFCC#Rationale, despite the doubtful quality of the image. I am actively working to replace the image with one of clearer provenance and better quality. In the meantime, I would suggest that this image is informative to those interested in cross-country skiing and harmless to the copyright holder. Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 14:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
All that may be true, but we always use free media in preference to nonfree, even when it's not as nice. "No one will sue us" is not a nonfree rationale. We use free media instead of nonfree, not in addition to. Seraphimblade Talk to me 14:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Please can involved be aware of WP:3RR. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)Reply