Talk:Mark Brnovich
Latest comment: 11 months ago by Captain Puget in topic Environment section
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Ethnicity and religion
editMark Brnovich is of paternal Montenegrin Serb and maternal Croatian Serb descent and he is Serbian Orthodox. The paragraph in the "Early life and education" section shouold look something like this:
- Born in Detroit, Michigan, Brnovich moved to Arizona at the age of two. Brnovich's parents were born in the former Yugoslavia and emigrated to the United States. He is of paternal Montenegrin Serb descent and maternal Croatian Serb descent[1] and is Serbian Orthodox, regularly attending services at the Saint Sava Serbian Orthodox church in Phoenix.[2]
All of the claims in this paragraph are properly referenced and can easily be found in the source.
The sentence saying how Brnovich said that his mother escaped communism should be removed as the ref link is dead. Thanks.Elserbio00 (talk) 11:40, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Lemons, Stephen (February 4, 2015). "Long, Strange Trip: Republican Mark Brnovich Channeled Jerry Garcia to Become AZ's Attorney General". Phoenix New Times. Retrieved 2019-05-01.
- ^ "His Grace Bishop Maxim Celebrates St. Sava with Phoenix Faithful". Serbian Orthodox Church. Retrieved 13 January 2022.
- I'll try and leave a fuller response later. Some quick comments: 1) ethnicity of Montenegrin Serb or at least Montenegrin/Serbian can probably be sourced between the Phoenix New Times article and the "Brnovich in Montenegro" source (although this is already verging on WP:SYNTH). Paternal/maternal descent I don't see sources for, and this may be WP:UNDUE anyway. 2) The Serbian Orthodox Church source looks like a press release, not a particularly reliable source. I don't think his religion is central to the article, and it's better to leave out. 3) The "Meet the Candidates" source is archived at [1]. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 12:04, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer Russ. This is where all these claims can be found in the source:
- Page 1/5 of the Phoenix New Times article states "Brnovich's parents, both ethnic Serbs"
- Page 3/5 of the Phoenix New Times article states "His father's family was from Montenegro, in the former Yugoslavia. His mother hailed from a little town outside Split, Croatia", i.e his paternal descent is Montenegrin Serb and his maternal descent is Croatian Serb.
- Pag 3/5 of the Phoenix New Times article states "All his life, Brnovich has attended Phoenix's St. Sava Serbian Orthodox church, near McKinley and 44th Streets." In the case the Serbian Orthodox Church website is not deemed reliable we can use the Phoenix New Times as a reliable source if we decide to mention his religion in the article. Thanks. Elserbio00 (talk) 15:36, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ah! I was only looking at the first page of the Phoenix New Times article! Yes, the Montenegrin bit in the article here was misleading. I updated the description of his family origin along the general lines you discussed, although emphasizing a little more where his parents were from and less ethnicity. I also removed an unsourced detail or two, and dropped the CME source (which doesn't add much, and is an interview anyway). It doesn't look to me like his religion fits so well in the Early life and education section. I guess it could form the start of a Personal life section (sourced to Phoenix New Times), but I tend to think that it doesn't add much to the article. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 22:51, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer Russ. This is where all these claims can be found in the source:
Environment section
editThe second paragraph of the section says Brnovich challenged an EPA decision to change an air quality standard from 70ppb to 75ppb. Unstated (though perhaps available in the reference) is that that is the acceptable level of ozone. The change seems to be the one described here.
The sentence seems meaningless without that bit.Captain Puget (talk) 20:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)