Talk:Marco Camenisch

Address Issue

I'm trying to get to a conclusion as to whether the postal address here fits into this article.

To me it seems as if it ads a slighly activist agenda. On the other hand, if assuming the addres is correct, it's a piece of fact just like birth date. Then again, addresses are not commonly found in encyclopedias.

My personal point of view is that it should not hurt to have an address here, and it is undoubtedly a verifiable piece of information, and no more or less important than a birth date or nationality.

I'm not actively going to turn wikipedia into an address directory, but I won't delete this address. Nevertheless, it probably wouldn't hurt to edit the article slightly though, to get rid of what I still feel is this activist touch.

ReidarM 11:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Political Prisoner?

The accepted definition of "Political Prisoners" is that they are detained because their ideas are deemed by a government to either challenge or threaten the authority of the state (jailed on political grounds, often extrajudically, false/exaggerated criminal charges to make it seem justified). The content of this article notes that he was initially jailed for sabotage, escaped from prison, and was recaptured.

How does this make him a "political" prisoner? Is he a prisoner with political feelings? Yes. But then again every prisoner has some political POV. Being a socialist does not make you a political prisoner when you are arrested, unless he was arrested BECAUSE he was a socialist on trumped up charges. The article currently seems to have a pro-subject POV, which even lists an address you can contact this person at (see comments above). This individual sabotaged nuclear facilities to fit his own personal political belief system, he was not arrested for publishing a newspaper/speaking out for oppressed minorities. Recommend the Political Prisoner tag be taken away from the article, and, in agreement with ReidarM, article lose POV. ------- 71.126.185.218 02:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

removed political prisoner

I'm slowly solving a global problems: now there's one political prisoner less.

I also removed the address part, which is here, in case anyone would like to send him a letter. Could be useful as a (probably slighly biased) source at least, to verify the contents of this article.

"By writing letters, he organized a far-reaching network of political and personal relations. Marco's address is:

Marco Camenisch,
Hörnlistrasse 55,
CH-8330 Pfäffikon/ZH,
Switzerland"

NPOV

The whole thing really reads like it was written by the subject's political supporters. Supposed poor conditions of imprisonment (with no citation or explanation), unsubstantiated claims of innocence, repeated use of first name, some rather personal-sounding phrasing. It's all too non-neutral sounding for my tastes. Dgies 22:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, I cleaned it up quite a bit. I'm removing the NPOV tag. Dgies 07:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Marco Camenisch. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060925024607/http://www.redpepper.org.uk/July2004/x-July2004-camenisch.html to http://www.redpepper.org.uk/July2004/x-July2004-camenisch.html
• Added {{dead link}} tag to http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article41469.ece

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:31, 25 December 2017 (UTC)