Talk:Ling Jihua
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editthumb|left|px500|An image of Ling Gu's fatal crash which widely circulated on the Chinese internet. does not fail Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria No. 8. The image of his son's car crash, widely circulated in China, severely damaged his reputation and standing. User:Fred Bauder Talk 21:35, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
- From The Guardian "The party announced its investigation into the former aide, Ling Jihua, in December 2014. Ling had been demoted in September 2012 from a ministerial-level job, months after his son was killed in a road accident involving a luxury sports car."[1]
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- ^ "Chinese court jails former presidential aide Ling Jihua for life". The Guardian. 4 July 2016.
- The image does not "significantly increase readers' understanding" of the article subject; everything important to the reader's understanding is quite effectively conveyed by text alone. The article is not about the crash, or anyone involved in the crash. The article itself states that "Despite media censorship regarding the event, news of the crash was widely circulated in China. . . . The crash and subsequent suppression was said to have led to Ling Jihua's demotion"; the image itself is not given central importance. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 23:01, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
- The image was suppressed in China. That alone is significant enough to support its inclusion here. User:Fred Bauder Talk 00:26, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Being supressed or censored is not really a justification for non-free use, unless that supression, etc. is in and of itself something which has been discussed by independent reliable sources. There is nothing about any image suppression in the relevant section and the reader does not need to see a crash photo to understand that Ling Gu died in a car crash; if such discussion exists, then it should be added to the article with citations to reliable sources. Otherwise, Hullaballo Wolfowitz's removal of the image seems completely in accordance with Wikiepdia's non-free content use policy. The file may be nominated for discussion at WP:FFD if more feedback for the community is desired. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:46, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- "The Beijing Evening News published an article and a photograph, but the topic was immediately scoured from the Internet." http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/world/asia/how-crash-cover-up-altered-chinas-succession.html User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:44, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- The crash of a Ferrari Spider at high speed creates a rather notable image. User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:47, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- "The Beijing Evening News published an article and a photograph, but the topic was immediately scoured from the Internet." http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/world/asia/how-crash-cover-up-altered-chinas-succession.html User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:44, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Being supressed or censored is not really a justification for non-free use, unless that supression, etc. is in and of itself something which has been discussed by independent reliable sources. There is nothing about any image suppression in the relevant section and the reader does not need to see a crash photo to understand that Ling Gu died in a car crash; if such discussion exists, then it should be added to the article with citations to reliable sources. Otherwise, Hullaballo Wolfowitz's removal of the image seems completely in accordance with Wikiepdia's non-free content use policy. The file may be nominated for discussion at WP:FFD if more feedback for the community is desired. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:46, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- The image was suppressed in China. That alone is significant enough to support its inclusion here. User:Fred Bauder Talk 00:26, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
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