Talk:Leaf celery

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Msolway in topic Cultivar group or botanical variety?

Cultivar group or botanical variety? edit

This article has a taxobox, but it appears to me that the subject might be better treated as a cultivar group (with a cultivar infobox) rather than a botanical variety (with a taxobox). The article title may not be the best either; GRIN suggest "Leaf Celery group" as the cultivar group name, and "leaf celery" as another common name. Plantdrew (talk) 05:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

It's tricky. There's definitely something called Chinese celery that's well known in east Asia. It tends to get listed as A.g.var. secalinum, but it isn't the entirety of that variety: there are European leaf celeries a.k.a. smallage included that don't seem to have much in common aside from not having enlarged roots or stalks. If I could find a reference that gave a name that applied specifically to the Asian cultivars, I would use it. Meanwhile, I think we should have information about whatever-it's-called that you can buy in places that have Asian produce and that doesn't look at all like regular celery, celeriac- or smallage. Chuck Entz (talk) 23:56, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I agree. Leaf celery has been in use in Europe since Antiquity, so I hardly think that the original European kitchen herb had a connection with the Chinese cultivar. I would also like to know when this Chinese cultivar was developed. In the twentieth century or earlier? Cmuusers (talk) 08:01, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
I found an article discussing the differences between Chinese celery and its American/European counterparts, as well as some history of the plant. [1] Will be editing this article shortly. Plan on adding two new sections shortly. Msolway (talk) 00:28, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

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