Talk:Elizabeth, Lady Echlin

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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Willthacheerleader18 in topic Article title

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I'm not sure about the recent page move - the correct style for addressing wives of baronets is not relevant to the naming of our articles, but we do have a naming convention for UK royalty and nobility, and then there's WP:COMMONNAME. I can't see anything in WP:NCBRITPEER about wives of baronets, so I've asked for advice at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility)#Wives_of_baronets. The scholarly sources writing about her use "Lady Elizabeth Echlin", so WP:COMMONNAME would seem to support that version. PamD 07:28, 21 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

"Lady Elizabeth Echlin" would imply that she is a daughter of a high-ranking peer (duke, marquess, or earl). They are the only women in the British noble system accorded the title of "Lady" before their Christian name. No wives, who are not the daughters of high-ranking peers, are able to use "Lady Given Name". Wives of Lords (younger sons of high-ranking peers) aren't even accorded this style. They use "Lady" followed by their husband's full name (i.e. Lady Gerald Fitzalan-Howard). Wives of baronets, and wives of knights, use the title "Lady" before their married surname. So she is technically "Lady Echlin". -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 18:30, 1 October 2019 (UTC)Reply