Talk:Lad, A Dog

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Featured articleLad, A Dog is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 30, 2009.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 1919 novel Lad: A Dog is a fictionalized account of the life of author Albert Payson Terhune's real life rough collie Lad?
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More to Look For edit

From some eBay auctions, it looks like Dell released a series of Lad comics sometime between 1956-1969 but cannot find any other details for use in the article. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hope this will solve at least part of your comic book mystery. In 1962 Dell Comics released two "Lad: A Dog" comic books. The first, a definite movie tie-in marked "Movie Classic, Issue #1303,” appeared sometime in the spring of 1962, probably Apr.-Jun in conjunction with the film's June 1962 release. It features a photo from the Warner Bros. film with Angela and Lad on the front cover and b/w stills from the film on the inside front cover. This issue appeared in two variants, one with a back cover about Dog Heroes while the second back cover featured an ad for Daisy bb guns. The storyline has Lad saving Angela from the snake, followed by the burning of the barn. The second issue was released Jul-Sept 1962, and is described as "Lad A Dog No. 2" on the copyright page. The identifying number on the front cover is 12-414-209, and although listed as No. 2, does not appear to be a movie tie-in. The cover art has an illustration of Lad, a rearing horse, and a man holding a whip on the cover. The storyline here has Lad being wrongly accused of killing foals, which was not in the film. There was however another definitive movie tie-in, a coloring book published by arrangement with E.P. Dutton and released by Saalfield Publishing in 1962. The front cover is a photo from the film showing Lad with Elizabeth Tremayne. I am new to Wikipedia, so hope that this information has been submitted correctly and that I have been of some help to you. Laddict (talk) 19:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

In Unkelbach's biography, he quotes reviews from several sources:

Have not been able to find any of these, though likely to exist. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Still unable to find these. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Explore edit

Apparent 1947 adaptation of the novel by Felix Sutton as seen on eBay and printed by Grosset & Dunlap...sources?[1] -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

No sources ever found. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 04:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
Confirmed to have been done in 1957, not 47[2] but no significant coverage, so not much to say on it in the article other than a mention. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

18 yo? edit

If Lad was born in 1902 and died in 1918, it seems unlikely he lived to be 18 years old, no? - Denimadept (talk) 01:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Point taken: I think it might be a simple mix-up with the year of death (1918), replacing the age with the year would solve much of this and I have boldly implemented it. Jappalang (talk) 02:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
You da man (or woman)! - Denimadept (talk) 04:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

So if the book was published in 1919, who were all these bereft young readers in 1918? Kevin McE (talk) 16:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

The readers of Lad's stories that were published in magazines before being collected into the book: "Composed of twelve short stories first published in magazines, the novel ...", "Long purchased the work for Redbook for $200 and it was published in the January 1915 issue. [...] By 1918, the stories had grown in popularity ..." Jappalang (talk) 00:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Publication date of "His Mate" edit

I am reverting back to January 1915. For 1916, single web site and a single book that likely took reference from the site claim so; however, many other publications (one dating to 1931 and from Terhune's mouth) stated it to be 1915.[3] Unless the scan of the article in Redbook is produced, I see no reason to overturn the research of numerous other publications for a website's claim. Jappalang (talk) 14:42, 25 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

I have a scan coming from the Archivist of the Terhune Sunnybank Memorial; there is a copy of the story in their collections. I'm new to Wikipedia, so please tell me the best way to submit the image to you. Eagleslookbooks (talk) 17:53, 25 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
Please ensure that the scan has the date (if the date is not on the page, please scan the content page and the title page, one of which would have the date). Since the article is published before 1923 in the United States, the story is in the US public domain and can be uploaded to Wikipedia (Wikipedia:Upload) or Commons (commons:Commons:Upload). This allows anyone to verify the issue. File:Honest Stories of an Honest Dog.jpg can serve as a reference (Note: I ask for a scan of the date for "His Mate" as well because the contention is with the date, not the article.). Jappalang (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
I have the scan of both the January 1916 Table of Contents as well as pages from the December 1915 issue advertising "His Mate" as a coming attraction for the January 1916 issue. I will put them on Wikipedia Commons if I am allowed to do so as a new user. Eagleslookbooks (talk) 14:07, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
The Wikimedia Foundation has implemented a Unified Global login. You can login to Commons with this User name of yours with the same ID. You can try to upload. Jappalang (talk) 16:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
I have just uploaded four images to Wikimedia Commons under the category "Rough Collies reared by Albert Payson Terhune." If I did everything correctly, you should see a photograph of Lad's grave at Sunnybank which you may use as you see fit; a scan of the December 1915 Red Book TOC listing APT's story "The Unbaited Trap"; the last page of "The Unbaited Trap" with an advertisement for "His Mate" in the next issue; and the TOC for the January 1916 issue of Red Book listing "His Mate." If you find this to be evidence enough, please correct the publication date in the article. 76.111.80.54 (talk) 19:28, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
On another note, this edit should not be done as such. The change has made it such that we are claiming the cited sources state 14.5 years, which does not seem to be the case. Wikipedia's policy advises us to be wary of using primary sources (in your case, the trophy). It would be best to find a secondary source that backs the suggested information. Jappalang (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
Page 16 of "His Dogs" has the information. The show was held on July 4, 1917, making Lad fourteen, not twelve, at the time. I could post photos of both the trophy and Lad's ribbons from this show verifying the date. Eagleslookbooks (talk) 14:07, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, your provided Marshall's His Dog will do. Jappalang (talk) 16:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Ladino language link does not work. edit

The Ladino language link in the left column of the page does not link to https://lad.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lad,_A_Dog but rather to https://lad.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dog_(film), which is obviously not the correct target. I tried to fix it but it continues to view "Lad," as a language prefix even though there is no colon placed after it. To fix this I have redirected the target "A Dog (film)" to https://lad.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lad,_A_Dog on Ladino Wikipedia, though I find this workaround crude and unnecessary. Couldn't someone fix Wikipedia so that it does not mistake commas for colons? That seems like a major error. --Nicholas0 (talk) 19:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)Reply