Talk:Kim Darroch

Latest comment: 10 months ago by Morbidthoughts in topic BLPN discussion

abbreviation? edit

What is the meaning of 'Comd' in this context: 'In 2000, Darroch moved back to policy work as Director of EU Comd...'? 129.67.149.107 (talk) 15:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

2019 diplomatic cable leaks -- Daily Mail issue edit

Note that there's been a decision made that in most cases Wikipedia doesn't rely on the Daily Mail's sole unsupported word. This doesn't mean that the diplomatic cable leak can't be included in this article, but there are some issues with the way in which that should be done. See the discussion currently at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#The Daily Mail is apparently the sole source for the Kim Darroch memo leaks. for some details... AnonMoos (talk) 03:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Bias (email leak) edit

There is clear bias in the article...

"This drew widespread criticism with Nigel Farage saying Darroch was "totally unsuitable" for office and Bill Cash saying the comments were "toxic". On 8 July 2019 Donald Trump tweeted that Darroch was "not liked or well thought of within the US" and that "we will no longer deal with him"."

Criticism of Darroch is far less widespread than criticism of Trump. The vast majority of (i) the respectable press, (ii) UK politicians, (iii) the world, views the emails, produced as part of his duty as an ambassador and supported by most UK MPs, as an accurate reflection of how Trump is perceived globally: infantile, volatile, thin-skinned.

Nigel Farrage is an extreme, marginal, politician in the UK: one of the least reliable sources and often a figure of ridicule. There are many better, more reliable sources that could be used for a more accurate summary of how Trump's repeated undiplomatic, impulsive interfering is viewed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.56.2 (talk) 18:59, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

It is also unclear what the opening "This" is referring to. From the rest of the sentence it would appear to be the quoted statements, so should be "These"; or perhaps it is really referring to the leaking itself, in which case the rest of the sentence is a non sequitur. Davidships (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Up-to-date edit

This article shows what an up-to-date encyclopedia Wikipedia is - it is July 10 2019, and already it includes reference to his standing down on July 10 2019. Vorbee (talk) 18:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

It should be noted that one of the UK's most senior diplomats has had to resign on account of breakthrough reportage by the Daily Mail, a newspaper blacklisted by Wikipedia. Oh the irony! XavierItzm (talk) 11:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
Lucky we're not allowed to say that "Trump abandoned Iran deal to spite Barack Obama". Martinevans123 (talk) 11:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
"Breakthrough reportage"? No irony - they paid the most - or they were chosen by the leaker. Davidships (talk) 11:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Comments from Charles Crawford edit

Was wondering what other editors felt about incorporating some of the information and career detail on Darroch seen in this blog post by Charles Crawford --Leonstojka (talk) 22:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Peerage edit

I believe his correct title as a life peer is 'The Lord Darroch of Kew and St Mawes' as per this article https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/darroch-kim-british-ambassador-to-the-usa-foreign-and-commonwealth-office-acoba-advice

Unless anyone who knows more about peerages tells me otherwise, I suggest we add the 'and St Mawes' L.S.Farquhar (talk) 21:42, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

According to the Roll of the Peerage as maintained by the College of Arms, he is -
DARROCH OF KEW
Life Baron in the Peerage of the United Kingdom: Nigel Kim Lord Darroch of Kew. Surname: Darroch.
Kiltpin (talk) 12:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

BLPN discussion edit

Archived BLPN discussion[1] Morbidthoughts (talk) 02:02, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply