Talk:Julia Baird (journalist)

Latest comment: 4 months ago by 2.29.103.46 in topic Birth date

Birth date edit

I have removed a birth year altogether, as 1967 is simply impossible. We have multiple sources indicating that she is the younger sister of Mike Baird, who was born in April 1968. This article says she is 18 months younger, but that leaves 1969/70 as possibilities. Finally, in this article, she explicitly calls us out for being wrong (and apparently someone was emailed about this too). I have no idea why this source, which is hardly authoritative, was being prioritised over so much evidence. Frickeg (talk) 03:16, 17 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

We need a source that actually gives a birthdate/year to include the information. Given the above, I think leaving it out is the best solution for now, but I think it's fairly obvious that the reason the source was 'being prioritised' is simply because it was the only source that actually gives a year. Happy to accept on the above that it is wrong, but it would still be WP:OR and WP:SYNTH to extrapolate a date from the above. Melcous (talk) 04:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
I understand that, but my point is that when we are relying on a source that is not exactly a formal biography, and when a date is being repeatedly questioned, it is a good idea to investigate a little to see whether there is any substance to the dispute rather than reverting to re-insert the year. I understand everything here has been done in good faith, and in all honesty I probably would have done exactly what you did in this situation. But I just think that it's worth all of us bearing in mind for the future, especially considering it has led to the subject publicly declaring the page to be inaccurate. Frickeg (talk) 05:25, 17 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
There is no notability in the subject's date of birth (or marital status), and Wikipedia is not a gossip magazine. Online trolls, identity theft, etc are serious issues, and I think Wikipedia should avoid unnecessarily providing them fuel. So, as per WP:BLPPRIVACY, I believe the date of birth should be left out. 1292simon (talk) 00:39, 18 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
We don't know what the date of birth is, so that shouldn't be a problem! :) Frickeg (talk) 10:14, 18 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

All the trolls had to say...

Considering all the issues covered by the journalist, is it not telling how the only thing a Media Tart wishes to bang on about is her age? Given such a limited attitude, and taking account of the resent downfall of female leaders, might not the points addressed within Media Tarts make a useful section?

Shades of: "All the papers had to say Was that Marilyn was found in the nude"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.103.46 (talk) 11:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply