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editchecking the viola Slaughter page, i found she was 19teen when she got married.
which one is the correct one??? ciao)))--joana 12:18, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Misc Info from article
editSomeone added this to the bottom... Looks like a cut and paste. May be of use to add to the article:
http://www.AddieSlaughterBook.com
'Addie Slaughter' Lassoes Young Readers With True-Life Wild West Adventure Indian attacks, outlaws, rattlesnakes, smallpox and blizzards are a few of the true-to-life dangers experienced by Addie Slaughter, daughter of the famous John Horton Slaughter, a Texas Ranger, famed Cochise County Sheriff and an early settler of the San Bernardino Valley in the late 1800s.
In first-person narrative, author Susan Krueger, Ed.D., expertly speaks for Addie, who tells her adventurous, sometimes heartbreaking, story of traveling across the wild west from Texas to Arizona to Oregon, and then eventually settling on the Slaughter Ranch near the Arizona-Mexico border.
Along the way, Addie's mother dies; her family narrowly escapes a stagecoach robbery; her grandfather is rescued when their adobe ranch buildings collapse in a terrible earthquake; when pursuing a member of the Jack Taylor Gang, her father's earlobe is shot off; and Addie meets the powerful warrior, Geronimo.
Based on actual stories told to Adeline Greene Parks by her mother, Addie Slaughter, and in-depth interviews with Arizona Culturekeeper Dr. Reba Wells Grandrud, the John H. Slaughter ranch historian, Addie Slaughter: The Girl Who Met Geronimo, succeeds in capturing the interest and imagination of young readers due to its youthful voice, colorful descriptions and exciting recount of actual events. most of the book's photographs come from Slaughter family albums and the collection of Dr. Grandrud.
Paragraph about poker--needs references
editHello. I am moving this paragraph about poker here until somebody is able to find references for it:
- "In California, he became an avid poker player. He began to gamble in a compulsive way while in California. In 1876, in San Antonio, Texas, he caught a poker rival, Barney Gallagher, cheating at the poker table. Gallagher won the game, but Slaughter pointed his gun at him as he collected his earnings. Gallagher became enraged and followed Slaughter's trail to Slaughter's South Springs home, where he told a foreman to call Slaughter out, intending to kill Slaughter. The foreman gave Slaughter the message and Gallagher fired a shot as soon as Slaughter walked up to the door, but he missed. Slaughter killed Gallagher with a shot to the heart."
Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:53, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Lack of inlined references
editYesterday, I added inlined references throughout the article, and thus removed the 'lack of inlined references' tag. I come back to this page today and see that User:Billy Hathorn has added info without inlined references, without discussing the issue on the talkpage. I hope this gets fixed soon.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:23, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- I placed in-line references. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- No, the references are only at the end of the paragraph. Are references 6 and 7 each valid to back up each sentence throughout the paragraph, or are some sentences not referenced? You could easily fix this problem though.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
"Desert USA" used as a reference
editThe "Desert USA" reference looks invalid to me, as it looks like a travel website.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:27, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- The desertusa.com article cites these references
- The Trail Drivers of Texas, 1923.
- Romance of the Davis Mountains, by Gus Gildea and Raht (The Slaughter-Gallagher fight).
- The Southwest of John Horton Slaughter, by Allen A. Erwin, Arthur H. Clark Co. Box 230, Glendale, Calif.
- United States National Archives, Washington, D. C.
- Austin Tri-Weekly Gazette, 1863-1865.
- Mesilla Independent, 1879.
- Santa Fe Daily, 1890.
- Weekly New Mexican, 1876-1877.
- Tombstone Epitaph, 1887-1892.
- Real West Magazine article: "I knew John Slaughter," by Judge Clayton R. Baird, As Told to Harold Preece.
- Files from a forty-year collection of the author. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:17, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Billy Hathorn:, it does not matter what sources the website claims to use as a reference (I do notice that the list of references is given in such a generalized manner that it is impossible for anyone to double check the claims in a timely manner. Even Wikipedia, a website known not to meet Wikipedia's requirements for a reliable source, expects the name and date of publication for a cited newspaper article instead of just the newspaper's name and a multi-year span), but whether the site demonstrates high quality fact checking and quality control methods. This site clearly fails to meet this standard. As an example, consider the place of Slaughter's death. Newspaper obituaries from the time and area clearly state that Slaughter died in his apartment in Douglas, Arizona([1][2]). The website claims Slaughter died at his ranch. Complicating this issue, the second of these two newspaper obituaries is on the list of sources the website supposedly used. If we can not trust this website to accurately reflect the information provided by the sources it claims to have used then we clearly can not trust the site. --Allen3 talk 19:52, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
- I have removed the unreferenced info and this reference as well, as it is invalid. Please discuss here if there is a disagreement.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:33, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Billy Hathorn:, it does not matter what sources the website claims to use as a reference (I do notice that the list of references is given in such a generalized manner that it is impossible for anyone to double check the claims in a timely manner. Even Wikipedia, a website known not to meet Wikipedia's requirements for a reliable source, expects the name and date of publication for a cited newspaper article instead of just the newspaper's name and a multi-year span), but whether the site demonstrates high quality fact checking and quality control methods. This site clearly fails to meet this standard. As an example, consider the place of Slaughter's death. Newspaper obituaries from the time and area clearly state that Slaughter died in his apartment in Douglas, Arizona([1][2]). The website claims Slaughter died at his ranch. Complicating this issue, the second of these two newspaper obituaries is on the list of sources the website supposedly used. If we can not trust this website to accurately reflect the information provided by the sources it claims to have used then we clearly can not trust the site. --Allen3 talk 19:52, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Found two reliable references re: poker player
editI have found some referenced info from reliable sources (published books) and added it.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:16, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Category:American slave owners
editNo mention of slave-owning whatever in the article. I feel that this category should be restricted to people whose slave-owning history was notable in itself. Valetude (talk) 12:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)