Talk:Jeseri
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editOppose: Do not delete the article, since the creole is spoken by a small population. You may not find many literature about it. Manikfan (talk) 10:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
- You are correct, a search on Google Books, Google News and Google Scholar reveals no matches to any such language. You may be confusing a language with a local nickname for a dialect of a language which may not be notable enough for its own article. If no reliable sources substantiate the claim that this is a distinct language then it will eventually be removed. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 10:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Oppose: A lot of literature is not available only because it is spoken by a small population. But since now we have got a Indian government's reliable source mentioning Jeseri as a seperate language, we should keep this article. see http://india.gov.in/knowindia/ut_lakshadweep.php Deviathan (talk) 20:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Search: If you search in google using these key words (jasri in lakshadweep) you will find references though few. Manikfan (talk) 10:28, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
- Not one of the results appears to be a reliable source. Even as a note for a name of a dialect in one of the other language articles this would be dubious with no credible sources. I recommend you create a user draft and continue to search for sources rather than fighting to keep this article from being deleted. Fæ (talk) 10:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Maybe it's Jeseri
editI couldn't find clear sources online and i am not an expert in this field, but it seems like a language called "Jeseri" does exist in Lakshadweep. See http://india.gov.in/knowindia/ut_lakshadweep.php . Interestingly, that page doesn't mention Malayalam. Maybe Jeseri is the Lakshadweep dialect of Malayalam? Or is it a separate language? --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:00, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- I sent an email to indiaportal@gov.in asking for clarification. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:53, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- ...And they replied! This language is real - and, strangely enough, in the email they called it "Jasri". They also changed the website and now it says Malayalam, Jeseri (Dweep Bhasha) and Mahal. So this language is probably distinct from Malayalam. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- I remain concerned about sources. Searching on a number of academic databases shows no publications or articles to have ever mentioned this as a language or dialect. I suspect this is a dialect variation rather than a distinct language and may be another name for an existing dialect used more widely. A publication that says the language exists but with little further context or analysis seems very weak justification for a stand-alone article. Fæ (talk) 10:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Requested move 24 February 2018
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: page moved, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 07:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Jeseri dialect → Jeseri – No page with name Jeseri exists, so the word dialect is a redundant and unnecessary disambiguation here.
Anish Viswa 05:52, 24 February 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. samee talk 11:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Jeseri is a dialect; not a language, with absence of Jeseri people. Consistent with English people, and English language. —usernamekiran(talk) 06:16, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- There is no community called 'Jeseri people', they are Lakshadweep inhabitants only. Moreover there is no other page with Jeseri or Jeseri people, so thw word dialect is redundant disambiguation.
Anish Viswa 08:20, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- There is no community called 'Jeseri people', they are Lakshadweep inhabitants only. Moreover there is no other page with Jeseri or Jeseri people, so thw word dialect is redundant disambiguation.
- Support per nom. Consistent with Arvanitika, Flemish, Hokkien, Koryo-mar, Luxembourgish, Shelta, and Zeelandic. — AjaxSmack 00:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:NCLANG. Disambiguation is not needed as there are no other topics with the same name. – Uanfala (talk) 18:30, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.