Talk:Janet and Allan Ahlberg

We have no consensus for any {infobox} in a joint biography, or for how if at all to handle two of them. See #People templates in joint biography.

Oldham

Oldham is a suburb of Manchester. Unless there is another Oldham I haven't heard of, it is not "in the Black Country". Where does this description come from? Rachel Pearce 12:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah, followed up the links, it was Oldbury not Oldham. Article corrected accordingly. Rachel Pearce 12:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Was a typo-of-sorts on my part. You know when you type the word you're thinking, rather than the one you mean? Skittle 13:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

West Bromwich Albion FC

Allan Ahlberg is also a supporter of West Bromwich Albion FC, as stated in Adrian Chiles's book, We Don't Know What We're Doing. Hence me adding it in without citing a source ThePennyDrops —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.170.148.130 (talk) 13:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you can just cite the Adrian Chiles book. Rachel Pearce (talk) 14:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

 Done with data from Adrian Chiles. What more does Chiles say about A. Ahlberg? --P64 (talk) 21:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Sources

Separately for Allan and Janet, template {{Authority control}} in the article footer links LC and other catalog data

1978 and 1991 winners at Greenaway Medal Living Archive (2007?)

--P64 (talk) 21:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

The article now gives those two references for the facts that JA won the two Greenaway Medals for the two books. --no more, and as retrospective award citations they may be further useful -P64

--P64 (talk) 21:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The article now includes reference to a new interview that is not utilized except to describe The Goldilocks Variations as "a new twist on an old fairy tale".

• [ref name=smh-jessica] "Interview: Allan and Jessica Ahlberg". Linda Morris. The Sydney Morning Herald 20 August 2011. Retrieved 2012-11-14.

Here are a few more that are not in the article at all. The first one is sure to be useful here.

• "Allan Ahlberg - a life in writing". Michelle Pauli. The Guardian 29 April 2011.
• Allan Ahlberg at Walker Books
• Jessica Ahlberg at Walker Books (publisher of Goldilocks)
• http://www.allanahlberg.com/ —at the moment this returns an error. Perhaps it is a domain name reserved by amazon.

--P64 (talk) 01:51, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Here are a few more that are not in the article at all. These are sure to be useful.

• "Gale Biographies of Children's Authors: Allan Ahlberg" (reprint) at Answers.com
• Marantz, Sylvia and Kenneth. Artists of the page: interviews with children's book illustrators (Jefferson NC: McFarland, 1992) —255pp; ISBN 0899507018 lib; OCLC 24846232; about 30 illustrators

This book is adequately cited in the wikibiography of only one illustrator (Deborah Niland, trivial in-line reference, probably used more substantially). My public library holds a copy, library use only, and I now hope to read it this month. Elsewhere we cite a later book by Marantz & Marantz and McFarland:

• Marantz, Kenneth; Marantz, Sylvia. Creating Picturebooks: Interviews with Editors, Art Directors, Reviewers, Booksellers, Professors, Librarians and Showcasers. McFarland & Company: 2006. ISBN 0-7864-2734-5

My regional public library network holds three other books about children's picture books by Sylvia Marantz or both (Search: Sylvia Marantz).

--P64 (talk) 19:13, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

People templates in joint biography

For some time there is template {{Infobox requested}} above. -P64 2013-02-07

This is a joint biography. At the moment it carries no template {{Infobox writer}} and three templates {{Authority control}}. I have raised the matter of multiple templates on two other Talk pages.

• Template talk:Authority control#Joint biography
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes#Joint biography

Today or tomorrow -12-06/07 I will further revise this article myself, but I won't add any Infobox or modify the Authorities "section". --P64 (talk) 18:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

We have no consensus re joint biographies. The cited discussion has been archived:

• Template talk:Authority control/Archive 2#Joint biography
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes/Archive 6#Joint biography

--P64 (talk) 22:05, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Authority control data

Today I removed these data from the article footer --as discussed indecisively last year, immediately above. 2013-07-07; extended 2015-04-29 -P64 Allan {{Authority control |LCCN=n/79/023259 |VIAF=9841958 |GND=1041369913}} Janet {{Authority control |LCCN=n/79/023258 |VIAF=46756208 |GND=1041369514}} Jessica '''– espy writings by [[Toon Tellegen]]''' {{Authority control |LCCN=n/2003/047926 |VIAF=33833373 |NDL=001151160 |NTA=288138864}} :: Now I added the following templates {{tl|Authority control}} to the personal redirects {{-r|Allan Ahlberg}} and {{-r|Janet Ahlberg}}. --[[User:P64|P64]] ([[User talk:P64|talk]]) 23:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC) ::: and now too the new personal redirect {{-r|Jessica Ahlberg}}. --[[User:P64|P64]] ([[User talk:P64|talk]]) 00:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC) Although J. and A. Ahlberg are both "undifferentiated" from other people with the same names it appears that the German national library records do cover their works including several German translations. (there is some coding error here) * {{DNB portal |GND=109050304 |NAME=Allan}} {{Authority control |GND=109050304 }} * {{DNB portal |GND=109050290 |NAME=Janet}} {{Authority control |GND=109050290 }} Particular listings should be checked before stating that some number of works have been published in German editions. --P64 (talk) 22:38, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Awards

(10/07/14 - 07/10/14) I have added Allan Ahlberg's decline of the Booktrust Lifetime Achievement Award including a (brief) quote from the The Bookseller "Blog letter" in which he stated his reasons for doing so. I have referenced both The Bookseller blog letter itself and the story as told by The Bookseller - both from thebookseller.com . Robin J Thomson (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC) Robin J Thomson .

This was inserted into my article edit after "...the award's principle sponsor..." - "Amazon.com who doesn't pay fair taxes in the UK."

Was it really necessary to insert this contentious statement ? --Robin J Thomson (talk) 20:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I have removed "...who doesn't pay fair taxes in the UK..." on the principle that Ahlberg's reasons were given in the external links cited and that people can read the wiki linked Amazon.com page and make up thier own minds about Amazon.com's tax controversies Robin J Thomson (talk) 12:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The comment "(no-one has won three)" on the Greenaway medal is now out of date, as Chris Riddell won his third this year. (That doesn't take away from the achievement of winning two, of course!) 81.106.44.213 (talk) 09:37, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Split

Does anyone have any thoughts on splitting this into two separate articles; perhaps keeping a short third article at this address by way of disambiguation? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Do we have an example trio of articles that includes a "short third article by way of disambiguation" in contrast to disambiguation page? --preferably two biographies and a short third article. --P64 (talk) 17:30, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The closest that comes to mind is Lennon–McCartney. Pichpich (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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