Talk:James C. Neill

Birth

Quoted from the article: 'He was born in North Carolina.' and 'Neill was born in Scotland.' I'm not that hot on my American history, but isn't this slightly contridictary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.207.115 (talk) 17:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

this article needs to be completed ... what became of Neill after 1836? T Cox 18:15, 19 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Cox (talk • contribs)

"Neill was born to John and Margery Ferguson Neill who hailed from Loch Fergus Farm, Ayrshire, Scotland. His parents moved the family to North Carolina and eventually had 11 children." Where does this information come from? No citation is offered. From all available evidence, this information is incorrect. The genealogy provided in the only book specifically concerning Col. James Clinton Neill ("James Clinton Neill: The Shadow Commander of the Alamo" by C. Richard King, copyright 2002, Eakin Press) along with numerous family genealogical records state Col. James Clinton Neill, the Texas Revolution hero, was actually a member of a long-established family of American patriots, originally from Ireland. This branch of the illustrious Irish Neill (O'Neill) family had been in America since around 1730. Neill's grandfather (William), father (James) and three uncles fought in the American Revolution. One of those uncles, John Neill, was killed at the Battle of Ramsour's Mill. The Clinton middle name was the maiden name of J.C.'s grandmother, Mary (Polly) Clinton. The Clintons were friends of the Neill's dating back to Ireland, both families emigrating originally to Chester County, Pennsylvania. The Neills moved to Rowan County, North Carolina in around 1733. Riopaso (talk) 06:08, 5 June 2015 (UTC) Riopaso (Russell Reid Holster Jr., great-great-great grandson of William David Neill, older brother of James Clinton Neill)

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And the problem with this:

"This Neill clan, descendents of the illustrious O'Neill dynasty of Ireland, had recently dropped the "O" from their surname to signify their allegiance to the Quaker religion. Encountering religious persecution in their native Ireland, three Neill brothers (Lewis, John and William) and their families emigrated to Quaker-friendly Pennsylvania from County Down (now Northern Ireland) circa 1730, then relocated to Virginia before moving to North Carolina by 1752".

Is that the Quaker William Neill, brother of Lewis and John, died, 1778 in Frederick Co., Virginia, leaving a will there in 1779. See:

http://www.geocities.ws/dalemorrow/nei152.htm

and:

https://archive.org/details/jstor-4243058

That William Neill appears to be unrelated to the William Neill who married Mary Clinton in New Castle, Delaware in 1750 and who later died in NC in 1797.

Sorry, but it's just incorrect and I would suggest that the above quoted material be removed as it is obviously misleading, cited properly or not.

(So far as I know, the Loch Fergus Farm business is also incorrect as James C.'s parents were also born in NC).

Sunturtle (talk) 15:45, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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