Talk:Insula

Disambiguation or redirect

I still think that my edit regarding making this page redirect to insular cortex is correct, since the other pages mentioned in the disambiguation are not as relevant at all. For example, a quick google search regarding the term "Insula" shows that the results of the first three pages at least almost exclusively are regarding insular cortex and not regarding any of the other articles in the disambiguation page. Therefore I think that this should redirect to what one 99% of the time would be searching for when searching "Insula". And for the other 1%, they can go to the disambiguation page from the article regarding insular cortex.

This is a quote from Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?: "Although a word, name, or phrase may refer to more than one topic, sometimes one of these topics can be identified as the term's primary topic. This is the topic to which the term should lead, serving as the title of (or a redirect to) the relevant article. [...] While Wikipedia has no single criterion for defining a primary topic, two major aspects that editors commonly consider are these: A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. A topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term."Lymoz (talk) 10:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

From these two criteria I think it is quite clear that Insular cortex is indeed the primary topic associated with the term "Insula", and therefore the term should be a redirect to the appropriate article.

Propose a proper move rather than cutting and pasting. older ≠ wiser 10:15, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Undiscussed moves are allowed assuming that "There has been no discussion (especially no recent discussion) about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and it seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move." Right now you're simply disagreeing with my move because of the sake of it and not because of some argument to be made regarding Insula continuing to be a disambiguation page.Lymoz (talk) 10:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Cut and paste moves are never allowed. If you had properly moved the page yourself or even made technical moverequest I likely would not have even noticed. older ≠ wiser 10:57, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Then I apologize for my mistake, and for my rather uncivilized attitude. I've had a bad day and I should not let it affect how I treat others.Lymoz (talk) 11:32, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 10 August 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved - consensus against the proposed move. (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 00:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

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Insula → Insula (disambiguation) – It is fairly obvious that the primary topic for the term "Insula" is Insular cortex, according to Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?, since the other pages in the current disambiguation pages do not show up at all for at least the first three pages of search results on google or any other search engine Lymoz (talk) 10:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• oppose no primary In ictu oculi (talk) 20:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

What are your arguments against "insular cortex" being the primary topic if you don't mind me asking? Lymoz (talk) 04:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

the "insula was" test In ictu oculi (talk) 14:56, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: You are using a biased "test" towards references using Insula in past-tense, which is very rarely used when referring to Insular cortex and thus not giving it a fair shot. It would be the same as if I did the "insula is" test since it it biased towards descriptions using Insula in present-tense. Then you would almost exclusively see Insula used in regard to Insular cortex. If you simply did the "insula" test which is unbiased regarding grammatical tenses used in conjunction with the term Insula, and then ignore the books written in Latin or other languages (since this is the English WikiPedia). It practically only shows results regarding the term Insula used in reference to the Insular cortex. Lymoz (talk) 09:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Oppose. It is not at all obvious. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@Shhhnotsoloud: Do you mind if I ask you what your arguments against "insular cortex" being the primary topic are? (I just want to have a discussion regarding the matter, and don't want to come off as aggressive or anything) Lymoz (talk) 09:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. No, it isn't "obvious" at all. I'd think of the Roman city block or apartment building, for instance (and, in fact, did when I saw this nomination; very astonished when I saw that the primary topic proposal was actually something else). I suspect it entirely depends whether your interests tend towards science or not. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Necrothesp: Yeah I agree that it mostly depends on whether one's interests tend towards science or history/architecture. I realize my mistake and accept that this move probably is unwarranted. Lymoz (talk) 15:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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