Talk:Inception (Download album)

Move? 2009

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The result of the proposal was Moved. "Inception" is now DAB page, now that there is no primary topic (album moved during discussion). DMacks (talk) 04:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC) Inception → Inception (Download album) —

• Inception → Inception (Download album) — There are several "inception"-named articles, this one is about an 2002 album from the rather obscure electronica band, download. There are several other articles with similar names including Inception (McCoy Tyner album) and Inception (film) that share the name. Inception should be made a disambiguation page and the Inception (album) page a redirect to the disambiguation page. — Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 19:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC) --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 19:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
• A better title would be Inception: The Subconscious Jams 1994–1995. Jafeluv (talk) 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
• According to WP:Common name the main title of Inception without the subtitle would be proper. Which ever is better it should not be the main article under this name. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 04:33, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

  At least for books (and I see no reason why albums should be different), the guideline supports using Orlando: A Biography instead of Orlando (novel). The optimal choice would be "Inception" (and "Orlando"), but since that title is ambiguous it has to be distinguished from the other titles somehow. In my opinion, bracketed qualifiers should be used for disambiguation only if there's no other logical title for the article. However, the proposed title is definitely better than the current situation as well. Jafeluv (talk) 07:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• The plain name should be the disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

  Agreed. Jafeluv (talk) 08:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

err whoops, I made the move without reading this.. Anyhow, I agree with the above idea of disambiguation page (and moving Inception album to Inception (album)), so unless anyone disagrees I guess that's ok? Feudonym (talk) 05:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Umm, Inception (album) is just as ambiguous, since there's also Inception (McCoy Tyner album). Jafeluv (talk) 06:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

This has been added the Inception dab page and at the top of the Inception (album) page (as it is less obscure than a 1962 jazz album). Feudonym (talk) 06:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I can live with that, if the consensus is that this album is the more likely search term. However, the dab page should be moved to Inception now that there's no primary topic. Jafeluv (talk) 08:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

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Requested move 2011

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The result of the move request was: rough consensus not to move. Andrewa (talk) 23:36, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

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Inception (Download album) → Inception (Download (band) album) — to match Download (band) and to make clear that this is not about downloadable digital content, an album called "Inception" which may be downloaded. As there are several albums with this name, which may be legally or illegally downloaded, the current name is ambiguous. 65.95.15.144 (talk) 04:59, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Opppose. The name of the band is "Download", not "Download (band)". If the preferred title would be ambiguous and the topic is not the primary one for the preferred title, we use a parenthetical disambiguation phrase. For the band, since "Download" is ambiguous, that would be "(band)". For the album, since "Inception" is ambiguous, that would be "(album)", but there are two albums, so it is "(Download album)" instead. -- JHunterJ (talk) 15:50, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment the set phrase "download album" is not an album by the band Download, it is an album that is downloadable, the disambiguation phrase itself is therefore ambiguous. 65.95.15.144 (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
    • Comment - no, grammatically that would be "downloadable album". In the context of Wikipedia, the current title is perfectly acceptable for disambiguation purposes. – ukexpat (talk) 20:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
    • See also Talk:III (Download album)#Survey, where this discussion is being repeated. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose, per JHunterJ. Succinctly put. Also note that disambiguating titles should be as simple as possible. – ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

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