Talk:In the Darkest of Nights, Let the Birds Sing

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Foster the People's EP In the Darkest of Nights, Let the Birds Sing was recorded remotely during the COVID-19 pandemic, with the band's members sharing files via Dropbox? Source:
  • American Songwriter Quote: "The Grammy-nominated group’s forthcoming, six-song EP [...] was recorded musician-by-musician during quarantine"
  • Variety interview "Basically, we set up a band Dropbox. We would send the session around and everybody would put [...] their mark on it."
  • ALT1: ... that Foster the People's EP In the Darkest of Nights, Let the Birds Sing was recorded remotely during the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: American Songwriter Quote: "The Grammy-nominated group’s forthcoming, six-song EP [...] was recorded musician-by-musician during quarantine"
  • ALT2: ... that the song "Lamb's Wool" from the EP In the Darkest of Nights, Let the Birds Sing, which is about Mark Foster's uncle's cancer diagnosis, was able to be played for him prior to his death? Source: Ladygunn "He describes the mood of the song as tangible and that when his uncle’s cancer diagnosis came, the lyrics naturally did too. [...] The beauty in the piece is that Mark was able to play the finished song for his uncle before he passed."
  • ALT3: ... that a song from the EP In the Darkest of Nights, Let the Birds Sing, which was written in response to Foster the People singer Mark Foster's uncle's cancer diagnosis, was finished and played for him before his death? Source: Ladygunn "He describes the mood of the song as tangible and that when his uncle’s cancer diagnosis came, the lyrics naturally did too. [...] The beauty in the piece is that Mark was able to play the finished song for his uncle before he passed."
  • Comment: I'm not completely sure whether or not you are allowed to include two sources for one hook. I added a second hook with only the key information and one source just in case.

Created by SupremeLordBagel (talk).

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SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 09:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC).

• It's allowed, although if you really do need both I recommend making it clear what comes from what.--Launchballer 14:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I'll review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Interesting article about an EP (I had to look up what that is) with a title that attracted me, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I was a bit disappointed never to have the title explained, nor the interesting cover art. - Of the hooks, I prefer ALT2 as more emotional, so will discuss that. The EP title is long, - do we really need the song title also, vs. simply "a song"? Do you expect people to know who Mark Foster is, or might we add "lead singer" or band member, perhaps with a piped link to the band? Having read the article, I know now that only the text was inspired by the cancer diagnosis, and "which is about" may be a bit to colloquial, no? How about "written in response to". "was able to be played for him" sounds needlessly complicated. So please reword ALT2 and I'll check again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thank you for your feedback! I've added a third alternative hook with the changes you've suggested. Does it look good to you? (Please note I may be late to reply to your feedback, due to school.) SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 20:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I like it better! I'm not yet happy with the double possessive. It may be a silly question: Do you think the name of the band matters, I mean makes it more interesting? If not, could we shorten it to

ALT3a: ... that one song from the EP In the Darkest of Nights, Let the Birds Sing, written in response to the cancer diagnosis of singer Mark Foster's uncle, could be played for him before his death?

I approve both ALT3 and ALT3a but am open to better wording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

That's definitely better - I was thinking ALT3 was just a little long! I've made a few tiny wording edits, but otherwise I think it's good.

ALT3b: ... that a song from the EP In the Darkest of Nights, Let the Birds Sing, written in response to the cancer diagnosis of singer Mark Foster's uncle, could be played for him before his death?

Thanks, SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 22:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

sorry about my leftover for uncle ;) - the reason why I used "one" was that I tried to clarify that not the whole album was written in response - perhaps you have a better idea - English is not my first language. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

I think that saying "a song" makes it clear enough that it's only referring to a single song (that being "Lamb's Wool"). It's also a little shorter than "one song", so I think that it will work.

Thanks, SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 01:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Do you think the nomination is ready, or is there anything else that could be improved? SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 22:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

It was already marked ready by the green icon, but I can repeat it for clarity. ALT3b preferred. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)