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Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion
@Funcrunch: Hi. The Cameo (website) is an official business site run by Alexander offering their services as an actor. I considered adding it as the |website= in the infobox but chose EL as a compromise. Can we agree that it's currently more official in respect of their profession than the official socials and should be reinstated? Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:45, 17 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Fred Gandt: I'm not very familiar with that site, but including it in a Wikipedia bio seems more promotional than informational to me. What do others think? Funcrunch (talk) 18:08, 17 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
It isn't a website run by Alexander, it's a website that allows celebrities to send paid messages or videos to fans which makes it promotional. Suonii180 (talk) 13:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
The website is not run by Alexander but their profile and business through it is. It is no more promotional than a website entirely owned and run by an individual or their management, which it appears you'd view more favourably. It is not a fan site or wiki. It is how they reach out for some of their business and in that capacity serves much of the same role as most artist websites. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 19:23, 18 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
It's not that it isn't run directly by them or their management, it's that the sole purpose of Cameo is to directly make money from fan requests. Personal websites or social media accounts aren't often solely for monetary use. Personal websites can have contact details or details about their past work while social media accounts have messages that aren't posted simply to make money which is why I think they aren't as promotional as Cameo. Suonii180 (talk) 20:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
@Joeyconnick: per question in summary; See from 4 minutes into Dawn Ennis interview on YouTube (transcribed (not in full) into Forbes interview) for Alexander's statements of preference at that time. Skip to 4:52 if you're in a hurry. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 10:08, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion
Per MOS:ETHNICITY "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability."; being Asian-American is highly relevant to Alexander's notability as an actor, advocate and activist. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 10:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Except people like Sandra Oh, Amy Tan, and John Cho are not similarly described as "Asian-American author/actor" or "Asian-Canadian actor". Alexander's primary notability is as an actor... if there was no acting, there would be no notability. That doesn't mean of course we don't mention Alexander's ethnicity and/or advocacy, just that it's not appropriate for the lead.
Am also hoping you can provide a specific reference to your claim that Alexander prefers they/them over he/they or he/him... you added quite a few references but the written ones seem to back he/they. If the youtube interviews specify a they/them preference, it would be great if you could provide the time in the interview at which this is discussed so we can easily verify this. In the parts I watched, there was one interviewer who used they/them but there was no indication from Alexander that this was the preferred choice. Otherwise I would say the preponderance of sources indicate a clear he/they preference and we should go back to he/him pronouns per WP:STATUSQUO. —Joeyconnick (talk) 23:36, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
See the section above for times in the video reference you removed for the details I referenced. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 02:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Right and if all I had done was point to other pages and said nothing else, that might be a relevant point, but again, the issue is that Alexander's notability stems from acting, not from being Asian-American. I referenced the other pages to demonstrate how other people notable for, say, acting or writing, and who are also Asian-American are not described as such up front in their articles' leads.
And sorry, I'm still unclear where in these videos Alexander is indicating a preference for they/them over he/they. — Joeyconnick (talk) 17:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Done thanks 