Talk:Hop, the Bellhop

Requested move 28 February 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 18:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hop, the Bellhop → Hop to It, Bellhop – Proper title —NTD (talk) 15:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Need citations. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 15:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose multiple books on Hardy show the title as Hop, the Bellhop (one, two), and no sources have been submitted by the nominator to counter this. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: The IMDb link cited in the article (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0248878/) has "Hop to It, Bellhop" (1919). Here is the corresponding film on YouTube (assuming it is the correct film, although identified as 1923), and the opening credits at the very beginning clearly show the title as "HOP TO IT, BELLHOP". However, here is a copy of what seems to be essentially the same film with a different title: Hop to It! (with very slightly different intertitles – e.g., the position of line breaks and the spelling of "dessert" on the second one and the spelling of "saleswoman" a little later). I think Hop to It, Bellhop and Hop to It! might be the same film. Hop to It! has a separate entry on IMDb, dated 1925, but has poster art that displays HOP TO IT BELLHOP. Is Hop, the Bellhop a different film? There is also The Bell Hop. (The above Google links don't seem to be working for me.) — BarrelProof (talk) 22:06, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks BP. It's not uncommon for films of this era to have several different titles. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

My tentative conclusion is that Hop, the Bellhop is a different film, featuring Billy Armstrong rather than Bobby Ray, and the title of this film on IMDb is incorrect and I just haven't found a copy of Hop, the Bellhop on YouTube. And Hop to It, Bellhop is just an alternative title for Hop to It!. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for looking more into this. Is it just a case of two different films, with the same actor, with very similar titles? Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 20:23, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I think so. Except for starring Hardy and having simlar titles, the two films have different actors, directors, producers, and character names. — BarrelProof (talk) 21:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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