Talk:Haku (wrestler)

Baddest Man In Wrestling

Uliuli Fifita was known as the toughest wrestler of his era. There are many accounts in interviews that give a detailed description of some of these fights. He himself tells of the amazing story of taken on 5 guys at once plus bouncers of the bar. In which he was charged and had a trial which he was sued for 2.5 millin dollars. He seems like a truly genuine person in this interview and very legitimate. In interviews with other wrestlers they all name Fifita as the toughest. http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/interviews/default.asp?aID=17490

Bad News Brown states that Haku was the tougest backstage fighter without a doubt http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=15770 Cashisclay 20:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Requesting page move

It is well known among Fifita's friends and family, that he rarely uses his middle name Uliuli, and is more commonly known by his first name, Tonga. A page move to Tonga Fifita would be more appropriate. IMDB has already made a correction for Fifita's listing on their site. It would be nice if Wikipedia followed suit. Thanks! T5806 00:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I've moved the page, per your request. Cheers. -GTBacchus^(talk) 01:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Organization

I think the body of the text could be organized better chronologically. There seems to be bits of data that have been inserted into the article and don't fit into the flow of the text and could be moved elsewhere in the article. Barkeep ^{Chat | $} 22:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: not moved Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 13:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Tonga Fifita → Haku (wrestler) – Per WP:COMMONNAME. He was Haku a lot longer than he was Meng. Therefore, this is the common name for him. GeicoHen (talk) 01:46, 8 September 2013 (UTC) Oppose A bit more common, but it's not like Meng wasn't also quite common. King/Prince Tonga is clearly third, but also worth considering. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose Meng, King Haku, Haku, Prince Tonga... a lot of names, I don't know the common name. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose, I don't think this is clearly the common name. McPhail (talk) 17:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose He wrestled under a number of names. Meng and (King) Haku stand out, but I'm not sure if either outshines the other enough to be considered his common name.LM2000 (talk) 19:59, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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Possible page move

Should we move this to Haku (wrestler)? I know this was discussed a few years ago, but since then he has debuted in NJPW as Haku and been there a few years. In all sources and news postings I always see him referred to as Haku, not commonly Meng and definitely not his full name. So I believe his WP: COMMONNAME is Haku. Examples 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, this one is even about a WCW incident but refers to him as Haku throughout article, 7, 8, 9. This does not include the countless articles talking about NJPW results referring to him as Haku. STATic message me! 17:14, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it accurately describes the long and storied career of pro wrestler, Tonga Fifita. Known as Haku or Meng, Fifita wrestled in the world's top promotions in the 1980's, and the information here may be relevant to fans of professional wrestling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.161.73.34 (talk) 16:50, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2018

There was a section "Professional Wresting Legacy" in this article. Tonga Fifita (Haku) is widely regarded in the wrestling industry as the toughest wrestler of all time. Therefore this section is very important for an article about Haku. This section had quotes from various wrestlers who have spoken about Haku's toughness. Each of these quotes have been backed up by valid references pointing to interviews on youtube or on reputed websites. However one particular user has been repeatedly deleting this section for the past few days despite people restoring it. I appeal to the moderator to take note of this vandal and to please restore this section otherwise this article about Haku will remain grossly incomplete. Thank you for your help. Gotgisemperor (talk) 16:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done, see below. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:09, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2018

I submitted an edit request few minutes ago stating how important a deleted section was for this article but I forgot to add that section in my edit request. Please find the section below and add it to the article (this section was there in the article previously for several months until some vandals began to delete it several times in the past few days even after other users attempted to restore it. PLEASE RESTORE THE SECTION PASTED BELOW:

 Not done. There's been a good deal of edit warring to have this information included; please establish a consensus here on the talk page that this information should be retained before using {{edit semi-protected}}. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:12, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Professional wrestling legacy

Many former wrestling personalities have described Haku as the toughest or greatest legitimate fighter in wrestling, including Stone Cold Steve Austin, Road Warrior Animal, Perry Saturn, Barbarian and Warlord, Hulk Hogan, Rocky Johnson, The Rock, Rick Steiner, Arn Anderson,Goldberg,Big Van Vader,Mean Gene Okerlund,Ric Flair,Stu Hart,Rikishi,Frenchy Martin,Jim Cornette,Bob Holly,Dave Penzer,Gino Brito,J. J. Dillon,Sonny Onoo, and Hillbilly Jim.

On March 3, 1989, Haku got into an altercation with some men at the Baltimore Airport bar who called wrestling "fake", and during the fight, Haku bit off the nose of one of the men. Haku stated, "Yeah. It was in Baltimore Airport...me and Siva Afi went over and there were lots of babyfaces there at the bar. So we went and sat in the other corner away from them. When they were ready to close, we had a few drinks, and on our way out there were five guys just sitting there. Of course, the same thing came out. The 'fake' stuff. 'Hey, are you guys with those guys – wrestlers? The fake wrestlers on TV?' You know. I said, 'Yeah. I'll show you.' And I reached over without thinking – there are four other guys there (laughs) – grabbed his face, and bit his nose off. Then the fight started. Me and Siva kind of cleaned house there and left. I'll never forget it."

In a shoot interview Bobby Heenan talked extensively about Meng and referred to him as the toughest man he has ever met. The most extreme story he shared was in regards to a bar fight in which he claimed Meng "took his two fingers on his right hand, his index finger and trigger finger, and he reached into the guy's mouth and he broke off the guy's bottom teeth." Heenan said that if he hadn't been there and seen it himself, he wouldn't believe it. Heenan was also close friends with Andre the Giant and claimed that the only two men in the world that Andre feared were Meng and Harley Race. Heenan also praised Haku as a good-hearted family man, who wanted nothing more than to feed his family.

Kevin Sullivan told a story to WWE Classics about the time when he and Haku went to a tavern to grab a few beers before heading to their hotel. According to Sullivan, it was obvious that he and Meng weren't locals, so when they walked into the bar, a guy playing pool insulted Meng. "The next thing I know is that Meng goozles the guy like Mr. Spock," Sullivan said. "It was fast and furious. He then grabbed another guy who tried to get involved and knocked him unconscious." After that, things got even crazier. "Meng bit through the guy's shirt like a wolf, bit a chunk out of the guy's back, then spit it on the floor," he said. "I said, 'It's time to go.'" Sullivan said that as they drove from the bar he saw police cars pulling into the parking lot, but authorities didn't pursue them and no charges were ever filed.

Wrestler Shane Douglas said in a shoot interview that one would be better off fighting the US Army than fighting Haku. He spoke about an incident when he witnessed several cops trying to hold Haku down and one of them struck Haku with a baton on his face while the others emptied their cans of mace on him but nothing seemed to faze Haku. Gotgisemperor (talk) 16:37, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

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