Talk:Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch

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Should this article be merged with Syrian Orthodox Church? Aren't these just two different names for the same thing?

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Ah, there's the rub. There are actually two groups who lay claim to 'Syrian Orthodox'. One is part of the Oriental Orthodox Communion, and calls itself the "Syrian Orthodox Church". The other is part of the Eastern Orthodox Communion and calls itself the "Antiochian Orthodox Church"--although they called themselves the "Syrian Orthodox Church" until fairly recently. Dogface 04:39, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Women as theological figures

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What does this have to do with Antiochian Orthodox Church? Please leave advertisements off Talk pages. —Preost ^{talk contribs} 23:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Latin rite

The Roman Catholic Church also claimed the patriarchate and appointed titular Latin rite patriarchs for many centuries, until the office was left perpetually vacant as of 1964.

Why was it left vacant? To avoid confrontation? Where were the Latin-rite followers redirected to? --84.20.17.84 11:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Greek Orthodox?

Is it really appropriate to continue to refer to institutions of the Chalcedonian Orthodox Church of Antioch as "Greek Orthodox", given the growing realization of this church as a substantially Arabic church rather than a Greek church? I've seen a number of other articles that make reference to Church of Antioch institutions and refer to them as "Greek Orthodox". Deusveritasest (talk) 21:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The "Arab Orthodox" terminology/polemics is specific to Israel and Jordan = the areas under the nominal jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Jerusalem, where autochthonous “Levantine Greco-Rûm” Christian priests and community leaders (natives of Jerusalem, Haifa, Lydda, Nazareth, Ramallah, Bethlehem, Northern Israel, and Northern Jordan) have been fighting a sort of “cold culture war” against the “European Greek” high-clergy. This cultural-political phenomenon is specific to the Southern Middle East (Israel, the West Bank and Jordan) and thus doesn’t concern the “sister Church” in the North = the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch (Syria, Lebanon and Southern Turkey).

Members of all Greek Orthodox and Greek Catholic Churches of Southern Turkey and the MENA area still call themselves Rûm which literally means "Eastern Roman" or “Asian Greek” in Turkish, Persian and Arabic.

The term Rûm is used in preference to “Ionani" or Yavani which means “European Greek” or "Ionian" in Classical Arabic and Hebrew. --B.Andersohn (talk) 11:05, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Greek Orthodox is the term the patriarchate uses for itself in English publications (e.g., on its official website: http://www.antiochpat.org/ ).

As for Rûm (in Arabic and Turkish), it literally means "Roman," not "Eastern Roman" or "Asian Greek," etc. EmausPriester (talk) 01:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

NO: you're wrong. "Rûm" clearly means "Eastern Roman" i.e. "Greeks" (and Macedonians and Greek-speaking Roman settlers and Hellenized Jewish converts to Christianity... etc. = "extended Greeks") living in the Eastern part of what was formerly known as the Roman Empire = "Asian Greeks" or "Byzantines".

In Arabic and Arabic-influenced Medieval Turkish and Persian, "Roman" is "Rumânn" or (the more literary) "Latiniyyûn". That's a fact. --B.Andersohn (talk) 14:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Apart from all that, isn't this Church most widely known in English as the Antiochian Orthodox Church? Why was it redirected from that?Richardson mcphillips (talk) 14:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

And why do the various linguistic versions say different things? Does the Church have different names in different languages? Richardson mcphillips (talk) 03:42, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

numbers

I think there are more than 1 million followers of the Greek Orthodox church of Antioch, especially in the Middle East.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 22:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

There are, definitely, but we'd need sources. Selim Hakim (talk) 00:57, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Abraham Dimitri Rihbany

Is Abraham Dimitri Rihbany really WP:DUE for a whole paragraph here? A convert away from the church who never really influenced it in any way and was not important for its history, he is given more space that most patriarchs of the church combined. Selim Hakim (talk) 00:56, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

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Help needed with Syriac Orthodox Church

Please help: Talk:Syriac_Orthodox_Church#Help_needed. PPEMES (talk) 18:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

The artickle name is wrong and should be moved

Rum Orthodox Church of Mersin in Turkey belong to Rum Orthodox Church of Antioch.

Look at their tag in the link. [1]

You know all muslims (bosnians persians indians) do not pray pray with their mother language.

All muslims pray with arabic language.

Vice verse Rum ortadhoxs churchs pray with Rumeika (Romeika) language.

Rumeika language that comes from Rum word not comes from Greek word.

Ortadoxs Church of Anioch do not pray Arabic. Even so their mother language Arabic.

They pray with rum-eika language.

So that "Arab ortadhoxs" use title for their churches "Rum Ortadhox Church" in Turkey and in Suriye.

Also they use Rum Ortodhoxs in Turkish and Arabic language.

Greek and Yunan words are olsa exsist in their Arabic and Turkic language.

Rumeika and Greek languge aren't the same.

The Bible's first translation language is Rum-eika language.

Not Greek language.

Please let's move it.

My vote is that the article of Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch move it to Rum Ortodhox Churc of Antioch.

Sencerly--25px 3210  ^(T) 19:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

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Removed stated claim that is not made by the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch. This church is an autocephalous patriarchate in communion with the Eastern Orthodox Church, which contains numerous autocephalous patriarchates, all espousing the same Orthodox Christian faith. It is that faith that is claimed to be the ancient church of the apostles, not the separately administered patriarchates that comprise its worldly structure. The faith itself is simultaneously both in this world and in the Kingdom of Heaven and not separated from Christ Jesus nor split into parts. The claim stated in the article was not referenced, but the correction can be found throughout Eastern Orthodox theology if it ever needs to be located. Since it is no longer in the article, that would be the job of the editor that wanted to mention it. 50.39.190.204 (talk) 04:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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