Talk:George Whitefield Chadwick

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This is an assessment of article George Whitefield Chadwick by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

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Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

Origins/family background/studies

Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

• Mostly ok. A bit sketchy, could use more family background.

Early career

Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

• few personal details -- family?

Mature career

Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

• few personal details. Bio appears to just end, as if paragraphs are missing.

List(s) of works

Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

• No list of works. (All works may be named; but this is not obvious.)

Critical appreciation

Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

• Need more public reception.

Illustrations and sound clips

Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

• One image; needs more. No sound.

References, sources and bibliography

Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

• Article has references; some citations.

Structure and compliance with WP:MOS

Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

• Prose and formatting issues. Lead is short.

Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review

• Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE)
• Article lead needs work (WP:LEAD)
• Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE)
• Article prose needs work (WP:MOS)

Summary

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This article is B-class, but it suffers from some content and WP:MOS deficiencies.

This is a reasonably informative article. The early biography is a bit sketchy; more family background would be nice. There are few personal details in the biography; we don't know if he married or not, had children, etc. The bio seems to end somewhat abruptly; we don't find out when he dies until after the musical discussion. (We also don't know the circumstances of his death.)

The discussion of his music is alright; it could use more popular commentary, and a listing of his works.

The article's text suffers from a number of inconsistencies, and could use copyediting to correct them. It would also benefit from additional imagery, sound samples, and more complete inline citations.

Article is B-class; needs work. Magic♪piano 00:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Pentatonic scales and Dvořák

Antonin Dvořák was in the US about 1892-1895, after Chadwick's Second Symphony (1883-6) and parallel with his Third Symph. (1894). A.D. used pentatonic scales in some works written in America, influenced by Native American and African-American music. Were A.D. and Chadwick aware of one another and their music? Marlindale (talk) 04:27, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Composers Project Assessment of George Whitefield Chadwick: 2009-01-31== This is an assessment of article George Whitefield Chadwick by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano. If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down. Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status. ===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described? Mostly ok. A bit sketchy, could use more family background. ===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? few personal details -- family? ===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? few personal details. Bio appears to just end, as if paragraphs are missing. ===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article. No list of works. (All works may be named; but this is not obvious.) ===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)? Need more public reception. ===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.) One image; needs more. No sound. ===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references? Article has references; some citations. ===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.) Prose and formatting issues. Lead is short. ===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review=== Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE) Article lead needs work (WP:LEAD) Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE) Article prose needs work (WP:MOS) ===Summary=== This is a reasonably informative article. The early biography is a bit sketchy; more family background would be nice. There are few personal details in the biography; we don't know if he married or not, had children, etc. The bio seems to end somewhat abruptly; we don't find out when he dies until after the musical discussion. (We also don't know the circumstances of his death.) The discussion of his music is alright; it could use more popular commentary, and a listing of his works. The article's text suffers from a number of inconsistencies, and could use copyediting to correct them. It would also benefit from additional imagery, sound samples, and more complete inline citations. Article is B-class; needs work. Magic♪piano 00:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Last edited at 03:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 16:04, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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