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Requested move 29 September 2020

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It was proposed in this section that Gelson (Angolan footballer) be renamed and moved to Gelson (footballer, born 1996).

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See below strong consensus to rename this article; however, what the new name should be is not so clear. So in accord with WP:OTHEROPTIONS this article is moved to Gelson Dala. If any editor thinks there is a better title, then a new move request may be opened at any time. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 02:57, 28 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Gelson (Angolan footballer) → Gelson (footballer, born 1996) – It is standard to disambiguate by year of birth, and not nationality (which is a social construct). MonFrontieres (talk) 15:15, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Support Gelson Dala as most of the references seem to list him with his last name and it's a cleaner disambiguation.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 11:49, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Support per nom. Giant Snowman 11:51, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Support per nom RedPatchBoy (talk) 22:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oppose. Nationality is a standard disambiguator per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer) and, in line with the recognizability criterion of Wikipedia:Article titles, is more likely to be known by searchers. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Disambiguating: "Years of birth and death are not normally used as disambiguators (readers are more likely to be seeking this information than to already know it)". Years of birth are only used when there is no other reasonable disambiguator, such as when people of the same name have the same profession and nationality. DrKay (talk) 12:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Comment: @Ortizesp: is right. He is known as Gelson Dala by both Rio Ave FC (his current club) and the Angolan Football Federation (FAF; he plays for the Angola NT). Sources: Rio Ave FC, FAF. So, yes, it would be better if the article name is moved to Gelson Dala (instead of Gelson (footballer, born 1996) that by the way generates a convention conflict here with other users).--MonFrontieres (talk) 15:52, 4 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

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