Talk:Gérard Genette

Latest comment: 10 years ago by 217.209.14.15 in topic narrative mood

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Reverting my edit has put the format back to an earlier, non-standard form. It has made it harder to read, by reducing it to one paragraph. If you don't like the wording changes, please discuss them here. But my edits do not do nothing.

Charles Matthews 16:59, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Isn't Seuils picture seemingly big? I don't think it the primary work of Genette. (Rather Palimpsestes or Mimologique for me) Consider Wikilink to French Narratology, of which he is representative (at least outside America). And name of Proust. If you say Narrative Theories instead of Narratology, nuance is diferent, but as in Narratology Genette's name is in first place. Interestingly, I have found a word hypertexte in Palimpseste which had been published a few years before Tim Berners-Lee's proposal. It's trivial but worth noting in Wikipedia.

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What makes him important is that (1) he inherits great deal from Western Poetics or Literature Making Theories (compared to Barthes), (2) he cares for computability, i.e. structures in cognitive way (compared to Rocœur).

--NoirNoir 08:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

I have added some info on important concepts from Narrative Discourse. I believe this to be important given the dire situation in which the main narratology article lies. It would be good if someone knowledgeable about his other works added info on other important concepts. For their own sake, and to balance out this emphasis on Narrative Discourse.

MC.Pearce 00:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Why Proust?

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"This was to answer the criticism which had been used against previous forms of narratology, that they could deal only with the most simple stories, such as Propp's work in Morphology of the Folk Tale. If narratology could cope with Proust, this could no longer be said."

Any source for this? 130.243.113.44 08:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I see now where this statement stems from; Jonathan Culler says in his foreword to the English translation:
"It is as though Genette had determined to give the lie of the skeptics who maintained that the structural analysis of narrative was suited only to the simplest narratives, like folk tales, and, in an act of bravado, had chosen as his object one of the most complex, subtle, and involuted narratives."
Culler says that "it is AS THOUGH", not that this was the actual reason. The statement in the article should therefore be altered or removed. 130.243.113.44 09:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

That's a fair point. But that Proust is the over-riding example in that text probably does need mentioning and explicating in some way.

Fair use rationale for Image:Seuils.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


No Palimpsestes

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The article matches only a part of Genette's work because it only talks about his narrathology theory. His theory about palimpsestes, intertextuality, paratexts is only mentioned, and his latest works on analitic philosophy are not even mentioned. I think there is no point in writing so much about narratology if the rest of the work is kept outside the article. My english is so bad I can't repair. I ask some good samaritan to expand the article, or to remove a part of the overweighted narratology section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.116.91.22 (talk) 14:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

narrative mood

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There was I link here to "narrative mode," but narrative mood and mode are not the same thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.209.14.15 (talk) 05:04, 3 December 2013 (UTC)Reply