Talk:Frisch's

Latest comment: 10 days ago by JrStudios The Wikipedian in topic Move Request

Vandalism edit

Seems like this article is a popular target for vandalism. People have claimed that a Frisch's burger is made with such things as "ball sack" and "horse semen", and that the founder's sons' names were DeMarcus, D'Brickashaw, and LaMichael. I don't do much on Wikipedia, so I don't know - is there some kind of "frequently vandalized" watchlist that this article could be put on? I think that'd be useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.54.18.81 (talk) 03:54, 13 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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History: Impossible Date & Possible Expansion edit

re: "In 1932, Dave Frisch visited one of Bob Wian's Big Boy restaurants in California..."

This date is impossible since Bob Wian didn't even buy his original building or open until 1936. There is confusion among different sources about the date of this event and others. It likely occurred during or immediately after Word War II. What is generally glossed over is that Frisch and Wian didn't meet on this trip, but Frisch went home and created his own Big Boy hamburger, ie, tarter sause, no pickle, plain bun, and his own Big Boy character. At some point the two men did meet and form an agreement. Later legal documents refer to the license beginning Jan. 1, 1946 but I'm not quite confident.

Presently, I'm going to change this to, "During or immediately after World War II".

I wrote the following draft for this section: (I have been invested on the Big Boy article and this draft may drift too far into Big Boy fodder.)


Prompted by his brother Irv, Dave Frisch traveled to California to visit Bob's Big Boy during Word War II. Unable to meet with Bob Wian, Frisch returned to Cincinnati where he created his version of the Big Boy hamburger using tarter sauce and added Big Boy to the sign. Dave Frisch created own version of the Big Boy character, originally with striped pants and red hair.

Eventually Dave Frisch met Bob Wian and became the first Big Boy franchisee per se. Effective January 1, 1946 Frisch was granted an exclusive license to operate Big Boys in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana and Florida for a nominal $1 per year. The sweetheart deal served Wian's national trademark registration for Big Boy. Dave Frisch was instrumental with other early Big Boy franchises such as the Parkette in Chraleston, WV, which would become Shoney's and Eat'n Park in Pittsburgh, as well as Manners and Azar's within Frisch's own territory. Elias Brothers in Michigan is cited as the first "official" Big Boy franchisee in 1952, because they were the first to formally apply directly to Bob Wian, but Frisch's is the first Big Boy franchisee per se in 1946.

By 1952 a refined version of Dave Frisch's Big Boy character began service with Frisch's and the Parkette. This design would later be realized as Frisch's version of the the large statue used outside most Big Boy restaurants. Likewise the Big Boy comic books launched in 1956 would be exactly duplicated using this mascot to be given out at Frisch's restaurants. A single comic book character emerged in 1969, when both the official Wian and Frisch Big Boy characters were redrawn to appear very similar, borrowing elements from each of the distinct earlier schemes. The Frisch Big Boy changed from striped to checkered pants, projected the hamburger on one arm, lost its cap developing the pompadour locks, of hair which changed from blond to dark brown. The statues were simply repainted with checkered pants and brown hair. (The distinctions between the two revised designs supported details of the statues that remained.) This Frisch Big Boy design remains in use today, though a revision of the Wian Big Boy appears on most restaurant signs, and a few stores even display a Wian styled statue.


Chris Hensen's, "King of Them All" The Big Boy Story, is a primary source for some of the above.

Box73 (talk) 10:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Remove the refimprove banner (tag) edit

The refimprove tag ("This article needs additional citations for verification") was placed in August 2007, when the Frisch's Big Boy article contained NO references. It is not now appropriate as a global tag for Frisch's. Instead individual citation needed tags should now be used. If there is no dissent by contributing editors or readers of this article I would like to remove it in 30 days.
Box73 (talk) 12:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

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How can they serve Tennessee if there are no stores there? edit

@Sundayclose: It's a matter of interpretation — Frisch's Big Boy has perpetual trademark rights to serve 76 (of 95) counties in Tennessee exclusive of Big Boy Restaurant Group. (Similarly Frisch's doesn't serve all of Ohio, and is specifically excluded from a 7 county region.) So Frisch's serves as the Big Boy "franchise" in 76 counties in Tennessee. — βox73 (৳alk) 04:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Move Request edit

I suggest moving the page to Frisch's Big Boy, as that would be the official restaurant name, Frisch's being shorthand. It's like if you called McDonalds Mickey D's JrStudios The Wikipedian (talk) 13:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply