Talk:Frederic E. Humphreys

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On 8 September 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Frederick E. Humphreys to Frederic E. Humphreys. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Latest comment: 12 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

The article appears to be a close paraphrase of this article at the New York State Military Museum site, whose copyright status is not explicitly stated. I spoke to the executive director, who indicated it can be treated as public domain, and will arrange to get this in writing.--SPhilbrick T 17:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

It's been through the CP process twice. :/ Pending verification of permission, it's been stubbed back. It can be restored, of course, once that arrives. Alternatively, anyone is free to expand the article with original text. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:46, 11 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

I just received a copy of the permissions email. I will add the OTRS pending--SPhilbrick T 14:43, 14 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 8 September 2024

Latest comment: 1 month ago5 comments4 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Bobby Cohn (talk) 16:57, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Frederick E. Humphreys → Frederic E. Humphreys – Spelling used in signature, military records, New York Times obituary, West Point alumni records and gravestone. – Maliepa (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Maliepa (talk) 18:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

There is no disagreement that the grandfather of F. E. Humphreys, Dr. Frederick Humphreys had the given name "Frederick". It is less certain whether his uncle F. H. Humphreys went by Frederic or Frederick. His gravesite has engravings with both "Frederic H." [1] and "Frederick H." [2]

Some of the evidence that the given name of F. E. Humphreys was "Frederic" is as follows:

Entry and signature image in the 1906 Howitzer yearbook.[3]
Commission as a second lieutenant of engineers in the June 26, 1906 Congressional Record.[4]
Birth certificate submitted in a 1913 New York court case.[5]
Federal Militia Bureau records (1922).[6]
West Point obituary (1941).[7]
Army Aviation Digest biography (1962).[8]
West Point alumni records (1971).[9]

Subsequent authors have used both spellings. A 1911 court document has both spellings on one page.[10]

Unfortunately, both "Frederic" [11] and "Frederick" [12] have appeared on his gravestone at Arlington National Cemetery. The name currently reported on-line is "Frederic" [13] [14] – Maliepa (talk) 18:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Note: WikiProject Military history and WikiProject Aviation have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:07, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support. Evidence seems to trend more strongly toward no -k. Ifly6 (talk) 06:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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